Running Back Rumors

[pbmax]

We're lucky we run West Coast. A lot of the short passes act as a run game for us and help us pick up chunks of yards. .

I've heard this can work.

Blashphemy! You must use the run to setup the pass. It never works the other way around.

[Patler]

i think standing pat will be a mistake. we need to be able to take some pressure off the passing game. we need to have a running game we can count on a little more. at this point we need lynch more than we need hawk and/or a middle draft pick so do it.

We have 8 LBs on the roster of a 3-4 team that sometimes puts 5 LBs on the field at the same time. We cannot trade away a LB. We cannot afford to put Bishop on the field for any extended amount of time. We don't have LB depth to trade away.

We could afford to trade away a TE or a WR.

fine with me. let's do it!

Dispassionately, it should be Driver that is traded. He has only a few years left anyway. Better to trade an old player a year too early than a year too late.

Ahhh come on Patler. DD will retire with our team. He's also still very solid and isn't going anywhere.

I just thought I would stir the pot a little! It is unlikely that Driver will ever be traded, and virtually no chance that it could happen this year. However, I would bet that 4-5 years ago people would have said the same thing about Favre. Therefore, I can't say that Driver will never be traded.

[imscott72]

i think standing pat will be a mistake. we need to be able to take some pressure off the passing game. we need to have a running game we can count on a little more. at this point we need lynch more than we need hawk and/or a middle draft pick so do it.

We have 8 LBs on the roster of a 3-4 team that sometimes puts 5 LBs on the field at the same time. We cannot trade away a LB. We cannot afford to put Bishop on the field for any extended amount of time. We don't have LB depth to trade away.

We could afford to trade away a TE or a WR.

fine with me. let's do it!

Dispassionately, it should be Driver that is traded. He has only a few years left anyway. Better to trade an old player a year too early than a year too late.

Ahhh come on Patler. DD will retire with our team. He's also still very solid and isn't going anywhere.

I just thought I would stir the pot a little! It is unlikely that Driver will ever be traded, and virtually no chance that it could happen this year. However, I would bet that 4-5 years ago people would have said the same thing about Favre. Therefore, I can't say that Driver will never be traded.

I could never support trading DD..Ever..One of the best Packer people we've ever had here. Back to the topic at hand, even if we trade for a running back, we still have issues with our tackles who can't seem to run block any more. Until something is done with Clifton and Tauscher, I don't think it matters who is brought in here, they're going to struggle.

[steve823]

As of 8pm pst the Panthers are listening to the Packers and the two sides are still talking players & picks, but the Panthers want to see what happens with their next 2 games (against the Saints and Bears). If they lose both games, the Panthers would be 1-5 and a deal is likely to happen IF the two sides (the Packers & Panthers) can (1) agree on compensation and (2) the Packers can sign Williams to a new deal that would keep him a Packers beyond the 2010 season according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The dialogue is good and going in a very positive direction.

Keep an eye on James Jones during these trade discussions as a possible trade chip. The Panthers need another WR opposite of Steve Smith (and would allow them to move Branden LaFell to the slot when they go 3 wide) and Jones could be a key figure in a potential Williams deal.

NOTHING is eminent regarding Williams or Marshawn Lynch for that matter. The Bills want a starting offensive lineman (a tackle to be specific) and a 2nd round pick for Lynch. That's a steep price to pay for Lynch who has a well documented off the field history. I was told by a source with knowledge of the trade talks that if the Packers were to pay that high of a price for a player it would be for Williams who has no character issues and has a reputation of being a great teammate and a smart football player.

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As of 8pm pst the Panthers are listening to the Packers and the two sides are still talking players & picks, but the Panthers want to see what happens with their next 2 games (against the Saints and Bears). If they lose both games, the Panthers would be 1-5 and a deal is likely to happen IF the two sides (the Packers & Panthers) can (1) agree on compensation and (2) the Packers can sign Williams to a new deal that would keep him a Packers beyond the 2010 season according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The dialogue is good and going in a very positive direction.

Keep an eye on James Jones during these trade discussions as a possible trade chip. The Panthers need another WR opposite of Steve Smith (and would allow them to move Branden LaFell to the slot when they go 3 wide) and Jones could be a key figure in a potential Williams deal.

NOTHING is eminent regarding Williams or Marshawn Lynch for that matter. The Bills want a starting offensive lineman (a tackle to be specific) and a 2nd round pick for Lynch. That's a steep price to pay for Lynch who has a well documented off the field history. I was told by a source with knowledge of the trade talks that if the Packers were to pay that high of a price for a player it would be for Williams who has no character issues and has a reputation of being a great teammate and a smart football player.

Where is that info from??

[steve823]

I found it from a Broncos forum.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?p=3438074

I just put the article in google and Joe Arrigo's blog came up, so now I'm pissed. Oh well, you never know.

[gbgary]

didn't he used to be on chatters?

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didn't he used to be on chatters?

yeah. seems like he's been on every packer forum over the years until people call him out and he moves on.

i just went to his website (before asking you the source) and didn't see that specific text on there so i was actually hoping there was something more to this.

a trade of this magnitude would definitely change my thinking about TT. way too good to be true for me, though.

[woodbuck27]

We're lucky we run West Coast. A lot of the short passes act as a run game for us and help us pick up chunks of yards. Also add in Rodgers athleticism and we're fine.

With that being said, it would still be nice to get a solid RB ,but at a good price. No reason to give up too much.

TT will NOT give up much at all to improve our team in the RB position.

TT's not the type of GM who'll seize the moment and ' go for the HOME RUN ' move. That's frustrating to some Packer fans. It is what it is with GM Ted Thompson's ways. It may seem to some that this approach will not benefit us with the results we are so close to harvesting or enjoying, but that is moot. I sense that we have to remain patient with Ted Thompson; not be over optimistic this season. TT is certainly patient and believes in his style of managing our team and is in for the long term. To give us a competitive team that will be a consistent playoff contender.

TT has the support of many in Packer Nation. To be there demands TT's patience and a complete acceptance and understanding of TT's style of managing.

Does the debate lie here:

Is it about winning it all or the receipts? When was the last time a Packer game wasn't sold out? I personally hope that Ted Thompson goes for it and takes us deeper in the playoff this season. Will that ' be the case '? I don't know ! I cannot as yet predict that as the enevitable and positive result based on present circumstances. We just came off two stinker games . Losing a stinker of an effort in a penalty filled game and that was inexcusable on behalf of the discipline that MM and his coaching staff is totally responsoble for. Ity's MM and the coach's task to field a disciplined team and for his GM (Ted Thompson) to supply MM and his staff with the players with the correct work ethic, effort, discipline and talent to get it done.

That's all any of us can hope for. A team that wins more than it loses for a start and we have that now. We are 3 and 1 in a crazy start to this NFL season with only one team ' the KC Chiefs ' remaining undefeated, and only after week 4. We can enjoy that fact now . WE are contending for the NFCN Championship and tied with the team that defeated us in week 3 or the Bears in a game that was simply ugly from a standpoint of pathetic team discipline and without that usual ' coup de grace ', we win that game and sit today at FOUR and ZERO.

It takes discipline and alot more to win a Super Bowl. It takes alot to be NFC Champion. It takes alot to get to the NFC Championship game. It takes alot to win an NFCN Championship. It takes alot to make the playoffs 'as a Wild Card'. It takes alot to be a winning team.

You people that will accept nothing but a Super Bowl are sadly setting yourselves up for alot of pain. Those of you that hope that our team can be NFCN Champs are more realisticly balanced.

Personally as a Packer fan. I'd be pleased to see the Green Bay Packers win the NFCN. To be in the NFC Championship game would be a wonderful bonus. To win the NFC Championship and go to a Super Bowl? Let's be realistic Packer fans. WE have Ted Thompson as our GM. This man moves very slow , carefully 'all CAPS'. Any Packer fan certainly has witnessed that as ' a fact for our lives ', as Packer fans. He's generally speaking not willing to take even a calculated risk as I've observed him but he has had his moments of whatb some will deem genious.

I hope that he's being fair to himself and still on his learning curve. His prime objective being. To guide our team to a possible Super Bowl win. AS we see our team today. Are we really there yet? I don't see it but we're 3 and 1 and there's time on our side this season as not alot will be determined until we're into the last 40% of our schedule. Just RELAX and enjot the ride Packer fans.

This is what I know. Winning a conference Championship is all about balance, timing and consistency. Confidence inspired in the teams players and coaching staff. Provided in terms of seeing results that have a return in the 'W' column. It's having a HC and staff that takes care of problems as soon as they arise pro actively and not just saying what he knows we want or need to hear. A HC and his staff and his GM that deals with adversity as it arises and 'nips it in the bud '. A Head Coach that has the parts and ensures that the teams GM ' is on task '. The Head Coach is on the firing line as the first man that looks good or bad depended on how much support he gets from the man that must supply him with the talent needed to defeat the opposition. That would be the team we see in Green Bay or HC Michael Murphy ( MM ) and his GM Ted Thompson ( TT ).

A team approach with all hands on board and that, with lofty sights in mind or otherwise. A realistic approach to seeing objectives achieved. All players on that team ( a GM and his choice of HC and his staff and all team players ) working very hard as a collective; acting positively and supportively ' on the same page ' in terms of objectives.

If it's not working a ' fix it now ' approach may come at a huge cost and with all respect for those of you that totally love our GM, that's far and removed or not as I view Ted Thompson.

It's by far generally, just a wait and wait even more to see what TT will or won't do. Personally I've desired TT to be a tad more agressive. That's just my personality coming forward. I"ve long past given up hoping for TT and anything. I predict that it will be as we've always seen for any near future scenario involving team growth or reaction to adversity.

As a Packer fan I must now weigh in with Ted Thompson's personality and be very patient. Enjoy just, all ' he decides ' to give to me. Im right where I need to be or to enjoy the best our team has to offer and not be wildly optimistic.

Specific to the issue and concern regarding of our running game, or a closer examination of what he's already put in place. I believe that TT see's and hopes that a real prospect will presently be coming through in new addition Starks. TT may continue with the dual RB approach as MM and he see best for our West Coast Offense. Eventually adding the talent of Starks (lets be positive) to the production we've enjoyed with Ryan Grant when and hopefully he returns at 100%.

Till then it's just what it is. I know that that MM has to have the parts to ask his GM Ted Thompson for more if he needs more for his offensive game plans. Packer fasns are hungry to see their team get to the upper echelon in the NFL. To not go just so far and flop. On that note I want our GM to be on the job every waking moment of every day. Positive or ' Pro Active '. Always looking to improve our team. I want TT to see only one short or long term objective. To satisfy Packer Nation with a Super Bowl berth before the good parts TT does have in place gather rust.

I know that TT can be aggressive. I loved the move he made to add CB Charles Woodson to our roster. That move gave me real hope that TT was a ' go for it ' GM. Aaron Rodgers fell to us in the draft. TT knew he needed a solid College QB prospect with the tools and winning attitude to eventually replace Brett Favre. The reality of that move was one that set aside the now for the future. I believe the best move I've seen TT make was bringing in Charles Woodson. A solid FA signing and an aggressive move that has turned out very well for our team.

Do we need a solid RB now? Yes we do. Will TT wait and see what the results will be as the RB stable exists? I believe that will be it based on this man's ways. He may tweek the position a wee bit but make an aggressive move soon? Nope he'll stand pat unless he sets up a deal that is only in favor of his ways or personality. This man isw ultra conservative and careful. Obviously his boss (s) are fine with the TT ways.

We ... 'the Packer fans', can go with a wish and a prayer or simply enjoy our team try their best to win the NFCN. That best has to be supported all throughout the Packer Organization and in terms of the karma we as fans may offer.

Y'all may as well relax in terms of wants. Our GM is Ted Thompson.

GO PACK ! ... GO !![/i]

[imscott72]

As of 8pm pst the Panthers are listening to the Packers and the two sides are still talking players & picks, but the Panthers want to see what happens with their next 2 games (against the Saints and Bears). If they lose both games, the Panthers would be 1-5 and a deal is likely to happen IF the two sides (the Packers & Panthers) can (1) agree on compensation and (2) the Packers can sign Williams to a new deal that would keep him a Packers beyond the 2010 season according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The dialogue is good and going in a very positive direction.

Keep an eye on James Jones during these trade discussions as a possible trade chip. The Panthers need another WR opposite of Steve Smith (and would allow them to move Branden LaFell to the slot when they go 3 wide) and Jones could be a key figure in a potential Williams deal.

Hogwash..I don't believe it for a second. Wouldn't our own reporters have some knowledge of this?

[sheepshead]

As of 8pm pst the Panthers are listening to the Packers and the two sides are still talking players & picks, but the Panthers want to see what happens with their next 2 games (against the Saints and Bears). If they lose both games, the Panthers would be 1-5 and a deal is likely to happen IF the two sides (the Packers & Panthers) can (1) agree on compensation and (2) the Packers can sign Williams to a new deal that would keep him a Packers beyond the 2010 season according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The dialogue is good and going in a very positive direction.

Keep an eye on James Jones during these trade discussions as a possible trade chip. The Panthers need another WR opposite of Steve Smith (and would allow them to move Branden LaFell to the slot when they go 3 wide) and Jones could be a key figure in a potential Williams deal.

Hogwash..I don't believe it for a second. Wouldn't our own reporters have some knowledge of this?

at the JS...no, those guys never leave the office. they eat krispy kreams at look at the same sites we do

[Cheesehead Craig]

As of 8pm pst the Panthers are listening to the Packers and the two sides are still talking players & picks, but the Panthers want to see what happens with their next 2 games (against the Saints and Bears). If they lose both games, the Panthers would be 1-5 and a deal is likely to happen IF the two sides (the Packers & Panthers) can (1) agree on compensation and (2) the Packers can sign Williams to a new deal that would keep him a Packers beyond the 2010 season according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The dialogue is good and going in a very positive direction.

Keep an eye on James Jones during these trade discussions as a possible trade chip. The Panthers need another WR opposite of Steve Smith (and would allow them to move Branden LaFell to the slot when they go 3 wide) and Jones could be a key figure in a potential Williams deal.

Hogwash..I don't believe it for a second. Wouldn't our own reporters have some knowledge of this?

at the JS...no, those guys never leave the office. they eat krispy kreams at look at the same sites we do

You got that wrong. They are eating kringles.

[woodbuck27]

i think standing pat will be a mistake. we need to be able to take some pressure off the passing game. we need to have a running game we can count on a little more. at this point we need lynch more than we need hawk and/or a middle draft pick so do it.

We have 8 LBs on the roster of a 3-4 team that sometimes puts 5 LBs on the field at the same time. We cannot trade away a LB. We cannot afford to put Bishop on the field for any extended amount of time. We don't have LB depth to trade away.

We could afford to trade away a TE or a WR.

fine with me. let's do it!

Dispassionately, it should be Driver that is traded. He has only a few years left anyway. Better to trade an old player a year too early than a year too late.

Ahhh come on Patler. DD will retire with our team. He's also still very solid and isn't going anywhere.

I just thought I would stir the pot a little! It is unlikely that Driver will ever be traded, and virtually no chance that it could happen this year. However, I would bet that 4-5 years ago people would have said the same thing about Favre. Therefore, I can't say that Driver will never be traded.

You know my history posting RE: Favre and his status and future as a Packer and I certainly felt that as soon as TT drafted Aaron Rodgers back in the 2005 draft that Favre's days as a Packer were numbered.

I felt that Brett Favre's time was about over; and I refer specifically to the way he performed in that playoff game Vs ' the Vikings '. Specifically I refer to that dumb underhanded flip pass to (was it Bubba Franks?) when Favre easily could have run the pigskin in for six and all we got was that foolish smirk on his face.

I honestlt felt that the Packers last game of the 2004 season was the real beginning of Favre's end. His ticket out of Greeen bay was officially prior stamped on that day that the vikings eliminated us from post season play.

I came to forgive him for that mentle lapse as I"ve forgiven him often for his mere humanness but that play really pissed me off and was an embarassment to all Packer fan and to in particular Brett Favre. I hope in hindsight that Brett Favre feels the same as I and I believe many Packer fans must about that damn play.

It sucked really bad! I was never as pissed at Brett Favre and as embarassed to be a Packer fan as I felt after that stupid play.

That was ' the real beginning of the end ' for Brett Favre as a Green Bay Packer.

A question for you Patler.

Do you ( or I wonder? ) if any of the old guard here at PackerRats and formerly at JSO ... re-call the parody I wrote, of the Packer brass at 'an ice fishing shack get together' at a ficticious lake in Northern Wisconsin?

In that parody. I wrote a ficticious account of the Packer Brass's secret position. On ' a need to know only ' basis. Bringing in a new GM to replace GM Mike Sherman, who wore the hat as HC as well. To make a serious effort to remove the old guard including the undaunted Green Bay Packer Legend Brett Favre and to handle the delicate nature of that given Favre's notable populaity as an NFL Icon, a Green Bay Packer Great and first round HOFer.

I re-call at the time that my parody or ficticious story got a less than positive reaction from some fellow members. I felt instinctfully as I wrote that parody that Brett Favre would be shoved out one way or another no matter the cost.

When I wrote that parody. Ted Thompson was already hired as our GM and Mike Sherman was held over, and in effect demoted, to Head Coach.


GO PACK GO!

[imscott72]

Just got a tweet that the Eagles are after Lynch now that McCoy is hurt.

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Just got a tweet that the Eagles are after Lynch now that McCoy is hurt.

Watch them get him for like a 5th!