Moss to the Vikings?

[Scott Campbell]

I think Moss and Screaming Lord Byron could be a lethal combination.

[3irty1]

Both Favre and Moss know what that takes fr. a team standpoint and only wish to do the best they can to fill a needed role. They are now together and it remains to be seen just how mediocre or dominant that combination can be. The potential for dominance certainly still exists inspite of any age factors mentioned as a negative by some here.

Woodbuck, Randy Moss' entire history is an exercise in getting paid, not looking to win. The fit in Minnesota to get to Oakland with a new contract. The preference to have a one year contract to enable him to get a shot at FA again taking him to New England rather than join Favre in Green Bay. And now the hissy fits he threw in New England, starting in Week 1, because they refused to talk about another large contract with him.

Moss may not be a cancer, but he can be disruptive and selfish. It was a bold move but NFL football is not fantasy football. Those personalities need to fit together in a team and within an offensive concept. Maybe he and Favre will be on the same page as Chilly, but it could just as easily be a bad fit.

He's worse than a cancer. He brings his off the field problems onto the field. He sucks when he's unhappy. Take into account that he's just a super weird guy who won't do things with the team and I'm glad he's not a Packer. That doesn't make me glad that he's a Viking though. He's awesome when motivated and I'm sure he is.

[Scott Campbell]

Are you talking about Moss or Favre?

[woodbuck27]

Re: Deal is official

This is Brett Favre and Randy Moss we are discussing. They can concentrate on extending one anothers careers as a main focus and in turn benefit the Minnesota Vikings. That will have to be a results oriented focus. One defined by one word.

Winning.

I think the word you were looking for is "Crocs".

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/10/07/2010-10-07_website_claims_it_will_expose_favre.html

And yesterday was such a good day for you.

Hey! Scott...

I'm always happy to see 'good things' come to 'good people'.

Brett Favre is overall and by far, GOOD. Evidence to support that ' as a TRUTH ' ... abounds on the internet.

GO PACKERS!

[Scott Campbell]

Yeah, I was just thinking that ole Bert deserved some Tiger Woods karma today.

Think his ankle is starting to get sore again?

[imscott72]

LOL!!

[imscott72]

Re: Deal is official

This is Brett Favre and Randy Moss we are discussing. They can concentrate on extending one anothers careers as a main focus and in turn benefit the Minnesota Vikings. That will have to be a results oriented focus. One defined by one word.

Winning.

I think the word you were looking for is "Crocs".

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/10/07/2010-10-07_website_claims_it_will_expose_favre.html

And yesterday was such a good day for you.

I'm always happy to see 'good things' come to 'good people'.

Brett Favre is overall and by far, GOOD. Evidence to support that ' as a TRUTH ' ... abounds on the internet.

[mngolf19]

Let the games begin..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rad-childress/

LOL, this is almost a copy of the same article that was written a year ago. Nothing to see here.

[mngolf19]

Oh man, after reading all the "expert" drivel crowning the Viqueens NFC champs with this trade, I can't wait to see this season blow up in the Queens' faces.

We have our own problems to overcome. Mainly injuries galore, lack of a TRUE running game and some "not-so" special teams play.

Getting Moss will make this division a lot tougher, obviously.

But keep in mind that the Vikes O-line hasn't done Favre or Peterson any favors. Peterson got 160+ yards vs. Detroit despite having defenders in his face before he even clears the line of scrimmage. If they continue to block like they have over the first 3 games, Favre will be beaten senseless and no WR in the world would help that team win.

What experts? I've only seen people say this makes them better or it's risky. All experts I've listened to are pumping the Pack.

[Scott Campbell]

Let the games begin..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rad-childress/

LOL, this is almost a copy of the same article that was written a year ago. Nothing to see here.

But there's something good to hear here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/10/07/2010-10-07_website_claims_it_will_expose_favre.html

And more to come tomorrow.

[woodbuck27]

Both Favre and Moss know what that takes fr. a team standpoint and only wish to do the best they can to fill a needed role. They are now together and it remains to be seen just how mediocre or dominant that combination can be. The potential for dominance certainly still exists inspite of any age factors mentioned as a negative by some here.

Woodbuck, Randy Moss' entire history is an exercise in getting paid, not looking to win. The fit in Minnesota to get to Oakland with a new contract. The preference to have a one year contract to enable him to get a shot at FA again taking him to New England rather than join Favre in Green Bay. And now the hissy fits he threw in New England, starting in Week 1, because they refused to talk about another large contract with him.

Moss may not be a cancer, but he can be disruptive and selfish. It was a bold move but NFL football is not fantasy football. Those personalities need to fit together in a team and within an offensive concept. Maybe he and Favre will be on the same page as Chilly, but it could just as easily be a bad fit.

Good Morning pbmax or maybe it's Good afternoon?

I entirely agree with you on the problems a HC may have attepting to bring *STAR* talents and personalities together. To drop the EGO for the better good and goals of ' a team effort and focus ', to achieve the lofty goal the Minnesota Vikings set for themselves this season. A Super Bowl berth and a Lombardi Trophy. A high ideal indeed! Based in what I'm seeing. Unrealistic to this point in time. Unless they wear out ' the HORSE ' AP.

I'm on record in these terms regarding the Viking's offense:

The Vikings were nowhere on offense in games one and two. They controlled the lowly Detroit Lions and covered the spread (Vegas) in game three and sit at 1W-2L. The great offense we saw last season was lost in space or nowhere in those first three games.

a) Bernard Berrian was invisable.

b) The 'migrane kid' was off in regard to running routes or somehow distracted.

c)Favre was using only one weapon effectively over the middle and along the sidelines. His talented TE V. Shiancoe. He was banged up as of early this week and may not be available Vs 'the JETS'.

So they go with 'a wish and a prayer'. Go out and make a spectacular move, bringing in Randy Moss, Yet, how to make that move work?

The Vikings offense is in the celler of all NFL teams.

We understand the reasons for thst dropoff in offense. Those reasons a long ways from falling to blame on Favre who can still make the pass's and be 'the leader' behind center, expected of Championship caliber QB. He just needs a fair chance.

I saw this:

a) Favre's WR's cannot get into position (run proper routes) and when they do they've muffed his pass's.

b) His OL will get him killed if that's not corrected pronto. He's being rushed, sacked and knocked down alot.

c) Favre's getting little time to none properly afforded to him to do his checkdowns. That OL as it was, won't matter 'a lick', in terms related to obtaining Randy Moss, and Brett Favre getting the ball to him deep, sideline or over the middle, anywhere,

The Viking OL problems has been ongoing. The Vikings OL was sucky last season (late) in the NFC Championship game. They made some adjustment in the second half Vs the Saints. Chilly was pissed at his OL and went 'smash mouth' in the dressing room at the half. He knew his QB was in deep trouble.

Favre's performance overall in that game was nothing but courageous. 300+ yards through the air with 18 knockdowns and zero sacks. Unbelievable for a team in the ( NFC ) Championship game and horrible to watch. I've never seen much in sports more ugly.

Comment:

That fact alone or the competence of the Viking OL. Would keep anyone
( but Favre ) away from the Vikings, and seriously believe that they could win the NFC Championship, moreso, the Super Bowl.

They like alot of NFL teams, have TIME to adjust. Time is their best friend. The trouble is they play four highly rated teams over the next four weeks and their BYE week was *early. * adversity due to loss's of starting players, injuries that cause next weeks starters to not be 100% and exhaustion before the end of games, comes to mind.

The good news is that most NFL teams have problem areas. It takes 8-10 games to se the best NFL teams get into the flow and string wins.

If the Vikings can manage a split over these next four weeks ( 3W-4L ) they could get it all together and rally in the second half.

There's that little word (if) with huge needs ( ie Sydney Rice's return and his effectiveness) and 'of course' all that adversity to overcome as well. That points to team depth of roster in terms 'of real talent' and the ability to fill in effectively. It takes so much to go right and alot of good luck to win a Championship. A team cannot just will that.

Ohh pbmax!

If Randy Moss becomes disruptive. I'm sure that Favre and the other Viking leaders can handle that and him. Favre's not still in the game to shrink fr. all responsibility as a Vikings leader and starting QB. There are more leaders on 'the Vikings' to share any burden related to any players less than proper focus and attitude.

Disruption = benching.

The bottom line in terms of Minny landing Randy Moss. Favre has to be given a fair or real opportunity to make the throws or get the ball to him or Moss in Minny is moot. On a positive note. The Vikings are definitely or potentially stronger obtaining Randy Moss. He's removed fr. being' over the hill '.

GO PACKERS!

[mngolf19]

Disruptive. If Moss is disruptive this year, it's because they're losing and I believe everyone would be disruptive in that situation. He won't ruin them, he'd just add to the disruption. I think whether or not he gets an extension determines if he could be a disruption in the future but even in that situation, if he's getting paid and their winning he won't be a disruption.

[woodbuck27]

Holy tunderin' be jaysus bye.

One of the best standalone sentences on this, or any, board. Ever.

Hi Swede:

I was just tossin' a tad of Newfie ( Newfoundland ) out thar in dat post fer a little hil ar ity fer meself, Boy ( pronounced as Boyee ).

That Adams fella, the cartoonist? Is he/she a Canuck? A Newfounlander? A Maritimer from,say... Cape Breton, Nova Scotia?

I'm a Newbie or fr. Saint John, New Brunswick. That's located on the Bay of Fundy in ' the Maritime Provinces ' of Eastern Canada. The Maritime Provinces are: New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island, and that's (Island) really a misnomer, now that a bridge connects P E I to mainland New Brunswick, south of Shediac, NB or at Cape Tormantine, NB.

[Scott Campbell]

I was just tossin'......................

Isn't that what got Bert in trouble in the first place?

[imscott72]

Let the games begin..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rad-childress/

LOL, this is almost a copy of the same article that was written a year ago. Nothing to see here.

But there's something good to hear here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/10/07/2010-10-07_website_claims_it_will_expose_favre.html

And more to come tomorrow.