OFFICIAL FAVRE SEXT SCANDAL ROCKS SPORTS WORLD

[Pugger]

I remember him saying that his legacy is his - no one else's or something to that effect - to protect. What a damn fool. What made him think that if he sent voice messages and photos of his johnson to this young woman that no one find out about it?

[Patler]

What made him think that if he sent voice messages and photos of his johnson to this young woman that no one find out about it?

The same feeling of invincibility that made him a great QB, that made him throw miraculous touchdown passes on some plays and mind-numbing interceptions on others. It is a common affliction for pro athletes, who are accustomed to more success than failure from their actions.

[Tony Oday]

from ESPN

"If the NFL finds Favre violated its personal conduct policy, he could be fined or even suspended. The league's policy allows it to punish a wide range of behavior, even that which is not illegal."

[pbmax]

What is remarkable, if the two massage therapists are to be believed, is that a married women, according to the Favre of these stories, is to be accorded some level of respect and courtesy. This does not apparently apply to the woman you are married to. Unless secrecy and discretion are the respects paid.

Maybe his background is at play here; it seems very French sensibility. Or maybe Choctaw.

[vince]

[get louder at lambeau]

What made him think that if he sent voice messages and photos of his johnson to this young woman that no one find out about it?

The same feeling of invincibility that made him a great QB, that made him throw miraculous touchdown passes on some plays and mind-numbing interceptions on others. It is a common affliction for pro athletes, who are accustomed to more success than failure from their actions.

That's what worries me about cocky guys like Finley. I think they're at a much higher risk of doing something stupid and destructive because they are too full of themselves to realize that they are not above it all. Johnny Jolly is another.

[Fritz]

from ESPN

"If the NFL finds Favre violated its personal conduct policy, he could be fined or even suspended. The league's policy allows it to punish a wide range of behavior, even that which is not illegal."

To me, this is ridiculous. He's a grown up. If he wants to f___ up his marriage and his self and the women he hits on by trying to bed other women, that's his business.

The NFL has gotten too big brother for me. If a player commits a crime, well, then you have grounds for punishment. If a player violates the banned substances code, then fine.

But policing players' personal lives is wrong.

[Scott Campbell]

from ESPN

"If the NFL finds Favre violated its personal conduct policy, he could be fined or even suspended. The league's policy allows it to punish a wide range of behavior, even that which is not illegal."

To me, this is ridiculous. He's a grown up. If he wants to f___ up his marriage and his self and the women he hits on by trying to bed other women, that's his business.

The NFL has gotten too big brother for me. If a player commits a crime, well, then you have grounds for punishment. If a player violates the banned substances code, then fine.

But policing players' personal lives is wrong.

You think it's a good idea for the NFL to look the other way when this would obviously be used the next time something happens as evidence the NFL does not protect employees from a hostile workplace environment?

[Scott Campbell]

What made him think that if he sent voice messages and photos of his johnson to this young woman that no one find out about it?

The same feeling of invincibility that made him a great QB, that made him throw miraculous touchdown passes on some plays and mind-numbing interceptions on others. It is a common affliction for pro athletes, who are accustomed to more success than failure from their actions.

That's what worries me about cocky guys like Finley. I think they're at a much higher risk of doing something stupid and destructive because they are too full of themselves to realize that they are not above it all. Johnny Jolly is another.

That's the great thing about Favre and Tiger. They become the poster children for the "don't let this happen to you" lectures.

[vince]

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/why-the-n-f-l-is-investigating-brett-favre/

Why the N.F.L. Is Investigating Brett Favre
By TONI MONKOVIC
No woman has put her name behind claims of sexual harassment by Brett Favre. We have to start there, and with a presumption of innocence. But accusations that Favre sent suggestive messages and photos to the Jets sideline personality Jenn Sterger in 2008 are well past the whispering stage and seem likely to become a major distraction. The N.F.L. is investigating.

Judy Battista:

N.F.L. Security is trying to determine the veracity of the claims, including whether the photos and messages were sent by Favre and not somebody impersonating him. Deadspin reported that a man said to be Favre contacted Sterger on MySpace and began leaving her voice mail messages.

Also at issue is another Deadspin article that raised the question of whether a member of the Jets public relations staff acted as an intermediary in Favre’s attempts to contact Sterger.

Some may still be wondering why it’s the N.F.L.’s business. If Favre harassed Sterger or anyone else working for the Jets, it could become a legal matter. It’s best to let the lawyers explain:

First up, Clay Travis, NFL FanHouse:

You may hate for the media to pry into athlete’s private lives, but Brett Favre’s alleged acts aren’t really private at all. They’re actionable under the law and directly implicate football. Based on the allegations, a person in a position of power tried to take advantage of that power to encourage someone to do something that they otherwise wouldn’t have done. That’s a story as old as time.

Based upon all of the sexual harassment investigations I undertook, I can already give you an idea exactly what the NFL and the Jets are going to uncover in their own investigation: No man ever admits to anything. Period.

Except now technology comes into play. Many men are being caught based upon e-mail, text messages, phone logs and photos. Where once it was two dueling stories, now there is evidence to accompany these stories.

Mike Florio, ProFootballTalk.com, also a lawyer:

The league has every reason to be concerned about preventing this kind of behavior. Even though Sterger supposedly was a contractor and not an employee of the Jets, she became exposed to Favre (and, allegedly, Favre became exposed to her) via her workplace. The fact that, per Deadspin, a Jets P.R. employee may have known about Favre’s interest in Sterger and facilitated the communications would make it only more difficult to avoid potential liability for sexual harassment, if the alleged victim were inclined to proceed with civil charges.

When Favre was asked about the allegations, he declined to address them: “I’m not getting into that. I’ve got my hands full with the Jets.”

Brian Bassett, who runs the The Jets Blog, began by saying: “I don’t feel a need to explain how much I love the Jets. I think that writing daily on this site, for the past six years, is testament enough.”

You could then sense his disappointment and disgust as he went on to write:

Over the past months since this story was first hinted at by Deadspin, I’ve had this story confirmed to me by multiple independent sources who knew about this, saw the pictures, etc. But beyond just Favre’s inappropriate actions, I’m also talking about the Ines Sainz incident, and yes … even the Gate D situation of a few years back.

Why bring up old wounds? Because they are just that, wounds. Sexual harassment is no trivial thing.

No matter what the team might say, there is a pattern here.

[MJZiggy]

from ESPN

"If the NFL finds Favre violated its personal conduct policy, he could be fined or even suspended. The league's policy allows it to punish a wide range of behavior, even that which is not illegal."

To me, this is ridiculous. He's a grown up. If he wants to f___ up his marriage and his self and the women he hits on by trying to bed other women, that's his business.

The NFL has gotten too big brother for me. If a player commits a crime, well, then you have grounds for punishment. If a player violates the banned substances code, then fine.

But policing players' personal lives is wrong.

The issue for the NFL here is that whether contract or not, Stenger was working with the NFL. She had declined his advances (in the workplace) and he continued which could be construed as sexual harassment. The NFL does NOT want that floating around right after the Jets sideline debacle.

[mmmdk]

Something I don't get; the thing happened in 2008...it's 2010 almost 2011 - SO WHY WAIT? Money?

[pbmax]

What made him think that if he sent voice messages and photos of his johnson to this young woman that no one find out about it?

The same feeling of invincibility that made him a great QB, that made him throw miraculous touchdown passes on some plays and mind-numbing interceptions on others. It is a common affliction for pro athletes, who are accustomed to more success than failure from their actions.

That's what worries me about cocky guys like Finley. I think they're at a much higher risk of doing something stupid and destructive because they are too full of themselves to realize that they are not above it all. Johnny Jolly is another.

Except that Jolly and Finley seem nearly polar opposites in their public personalities.

[Scott Campbell]

So if the NFL suspends Bert, would the Vikes even want him back? They could be out of contention by then.

[Scott Campbell]

Something I don't get; the thing happened in 2008...it's 2010 almost 2011 - SO WHY WAIT? Money?

She probably had no idea what she was sitting on.