Rodgers with a concussion in OT

[mraynrand]

Arod needs to get a helmet equipped with strobe lights or something that start flashing when someone makes contact with his helmet. Otherwise, apparently the refs will never see it.

This entire game was announced as if for Redskins fans. Every flag or nonflag Aikeman was debating from the redskins perspective. "Well, Bishop could have been flagged, he was a tad early. Well, I don't see calling holding on Washington there". It was like listening to Redskin fans in their living room.

Arod is never going to get a flag because the NFL is still mad at TT for not worshipping the jersey saleman from hell. The minute TT and MM decided they wouldn't give BF his release (told him to come on in and be the backup) and weren't going to start him, the NFL decided GB wouldn't get another call EVER!!!

Damn, that is some awesome paranoia. But I have to agree to some extent. I've watched enough football to know that virtually every time a defender even touches a receiver with his back completely turned to the ball, it is called interference. Happened twice in the end zone today. Those non-calls made a huge difference.

[mmmdk]

Greg Bedard on twitter:
Sure sounded like Finley and Matthews would be out at least a week to err on side of caution.

[Badgerinmaine]

News story:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14108520/packers-say-qb-rodgers-received-concussion

I understand people's frustration with the injuries, but come on--there's no way different training staff is going to prevent concussions on helmet-to-helmet hits like the one Rodgers got.

[curtis loew]

News story:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14108520/packers-say-qb-rodgers-received-concussion

I understand people's frustration with the injuries, but come on--there's no way different training staff is going to prevent concussions on helmet-to-helmet hits like the one Rodgers got.

Can they prevent hammy/shoulder/oblique/ankle etc injuries? I am really asking, not being a smart ass.

[Badgerinmaine]

News story:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14108520/packers-say-qb-rodgers-received-concussion

I understand people's frustration with the injuries, but come on--there's no way different training staff is going to prevent concussions on helmet-to-helmet hits like the one Rodgers got.

Can they prevent hammy/shoulder/oblique/ankle etc injuries? I am really asking, not being a smart ass.

A good staff might help reduce them compared to a poor staff, but every team gets some injuries. I'd want to see some sort of quantitative analysis on this question--how many injuries per team is an outlier?-- before I started pointing fingers.

[imscott72]

Arod needs to get a helmet equipped with strobe lights or something that start flashing when someone makes contact with his helmet. Otherwise, apparently the refs will never see it.

This entire game was announced as if for Redskins fans. Every flag or nonflag Aikeman was debating from the redskins perspective. "Well, Bishop could have been flagged, he was a tad early. Well, I don't see calling holding on Washington there". It was like listening to Redskin fans in their living room.

Arod is never going to get a flag because the NFL is still mad at TT for not worshipping the jersey saleman from hell. The minute TT and MM decided they wouldn't give BF his release (told him to come on in and be the backup) and weren't going to start him, the NFL decided GB wouldn't get another call EVER!!!

Damn, that is some awesome paranoia. But I have to agree to some extent. I've watched enough football to know that virtually every time a defender even touches a receiver with his back completely turned to the ball, it is called interference. Happened twice in the end zone today. Those non-calls made a huge difference.

Please guys stop with the officiating. I remember a few things we should of been flagged for and weren't. I remember thinking we got a break there, and Shanny bitching up a storm to the refs about it. Sure the calls at the end were iffy, but that's going to happen when the Packers let every game come down to the final drive against a team less talented than they are.

[Badgerinmaine]

(snip) Sure the calls at the end were iffy, but that's going to happen when the Packers let every game come down to the final drive against a team less talented than they are.

True that.

[gbgary]

Arod needs to get a helmet equipped with strobe lights or something that start flashing when someone makes contact with his helmet. Otherwise, apparently the refs will never see it.

This entire game was announced as if for Redskins fans. Every flag or nonflag Aikeman was debating from the redskins perspective. "Well, Bishop could have been flagged, he was a tad early. Well, I don't see calling holding on Washington there". It was like listening to Redskin fans in their living room.

Arod is never going to get a flag because the NFL is still mad at TT for not worshipping the jersey saleman from hell. The minute TT and MM decided they wouldn't give BF his release (told him to come on in and be the backup) and weren't going to start him, the NFL decided GB wouldn't get another call EVER!!!

Damn, that is some awesome paranoia. But I have to agree to some extent. I've watched enough football to know that virtually every time a defender even touches a receiver with his back completely turned to the ball, it is called interference. Happened twice in the end zone today. Those non-calls made a huge difference.

Please guys stop with the officiating. I remember a few things we should of been flagged for and weren't. I remember thinking we got a break there, and Shanny bitching up a storm to the refs about it. Sure the calls at the end were iffy, but that's going to happen when the Packers let every game come down to the final drive against a team less talented than they are.

it was poor for both teams. that's what happens when you let them play.

[Deputy Nutz]

News story:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14108520/packers-say-qb-rodgers-received-concussion

I understand people's frustration with the injuries, but come on--there's no way different training staff is going to prevent concussions on helmet-to-helmet hits like the one Rodgers got.

Can they prevent hammy/shoulder/oblique/ankle etc injuries? I am really asking, not being a smart ass.

A good staff might help reduce them compared to a poor staff, but every team gets some injuries. I'd want to see some sort of quantitative analysis on this question--how many injuries per team is an outlier?-- before I started pointing fingers.

They are all good at the nfl level, these guys should damn well be doctors with what they know of the body. the bottom line is that Mathews has a weakness at that is his hamstring, at some point you have to wonder if he wrecked it in college and didn't allow proper recovery time and has caused a career long injury.

I didn't see the injury to Finely, but simply to point to the strength and conditioning staff so fans can find blame in someone or something is ridiculous. It is called "luck". None of these players held out or were out of shape, they have all participated since OTAs.

[Little Whiskey]

A good staff might help reduce them compared to a poor staff, but every team gets some injuries. I'd want to see some sort of quantitative analysis on this question--how many injuries per team is an outlier?-- before I started pointing fingers.

They are all good at the nfl level, these guys should damn well be doctors with what they know of the body. the bottom line is that Mathews has a weakness at that is his hamstring, at some point you have to wonder if he wrecked it in college and didn't allow proper recovery time and has caused a career long injury.

I didn't see the injury to Finely, but simply to point to the strength and conditioning staff so fans can find blame in someone or something is ridiculous. It is called "luck". None of these players held out or were out of shape, they have all participated since OTAs.[/quote]

holy shit a nutz sighting!

[pbmax]

Is there a point at which we start looking at the Strength and Conditioning staff???

Absolutely.

Yes, because each of the last three times we have changed strength and conditioning staff, things have gotten better.

2002 and this year were not the same staffs. And this is the second staff here, after too many injuries in 2008.

No matter what Head Coaches want you to believe, free weights or Nautilus machines will not prevent hamstring pulls, ankle sprains, concussions or dislocated hamstring ligaments. It happens. The Packers have had reasonable injury luck the last two season. Not this year.

[bobblehead]

Arod needs to get a helmet equipped with strobe lights or something that start flashing when someone makes contact with his helmet. Otherwise, apparently the refs will never see it.

This entire game was announced as if for Redskins fans. Every flag or nonflag Aikeman was debating from the redskins perspective. "Well, Bishop could have been flagged, he was a tad early. Well, I don't see calling holding on Washington there". It was like listening to Redskin fans in their living room.

Arod is never going to get a flag because the NFL is still mad at TT for not worshipping the jersey saleman from hell. The minute TT and MM decided they wouldn't give BF his release (told him to come on in and be the backup) and weren't going to start him, the NFL decided GB wouldn't get another call EVER!!!

Damn, that is some awesome paranoia. But I have to agree to some extent. I've watched enough football to know that virtually every time a defender even touches a receiver with his back completely turned to the ball, it is called interference. Happened twice in the end zone today. Those non-calls made a huge difference.

Please guys stop with the officiating. I remember a few things we should of been flagged for and weren't. I remember thinking we got a break there, and Shanny bitching up a storm to the refs about it. Sure the calls at the end were iffy, but that's going to happen when the Packers let every game come down to the final drive against a team less talented than they are.

I'll say we got away with a couple today as well, and I don't really think they made the difference in the game, but we are now at THREE helmet hits on Rodgers without getting a single call. If that doesn't bother you, then I'm not sure what to say.

Also, I never once denied that after our superbowl seasons and for several years when we were competitive we got the benefit of many calls...MANY!

Now you can sit there and think that we should be so much more talented than our opponents that we can overcome being on the short end of many subjective calls, but again, that is pie in the sky. A clutch holding penatly to kill a drive. A call where Jordy tucked the ball inside the pylon that was called down at the one instead. (MM should have challenged, that was on him). A PI penalty that may be iffy to extend a drive. No team is that dominant in todays NFL.

[Smidgeon]

Arod needs to get a helmet equipped with strobe lights or something that start flashing when someone makes contact with his helmet. Otherwise, apparently the refs will never see it.

This entire game was announced as if for Redskins fans. Every flag or nonflag Aikeman was debating from the redskins perspective. "Well, Bishop could have been flagged, he was a tad early. Well, I don't see calling holding on Washington there". It was like listening to Redskin fans in their living room.

Arod is never going to get a flag because the NFL is still mad at TT for not worshipping the jersey saleman from hell. The minute TT and MM decided they wouldn't give BF his release (told him to come on in and be the backup) and weren't going to start him, the NFL decided GB wouldn't get another call EVER!!!

Damn, that is some awesome paranoia. But I have to agree to some extent. I've watched enough football to know that virtually every time a defender even touches a receiver with his back completely turned to the ball, it is called interference. Happened twice in the end zone today. Those non-calls made a huge difference.

Please guys stop with the officiating. I remember a few things we should of been flagged for and weren't. I remember thinking we got a break there, and Shanny bitching up a storm to the refs about it. Sure the calls at the end were iffy, but that's going to happen when the Packers let every game come down to the final drive against a team less talented than they are.

I'll say we got away with a couple today as well, and I don't really think they made the difference in the game, but we are now at THREE helmet hits on Rodgers without getting a single call. If that doesn't bother you, then I'm not sure what to say.

Also, I never once denied that after our superbowl seasons and for several years when we were competitive we got the benefit of many calls...MANY!

Now you can sit there and think that we should be so much more talented than our opponents that we can overcome being on the short end of many subjective calls, but again, that is pie in the sky. A clutch holding penatly to kill a drive. A call where Jordy tucked the ball inside the pylon that was called down at the one instead. (MM should have challenged, that was on him). A PI penalty that may be iffy to extend a drive. No team is that dominant in todays NFL.

...a hold against the RT on Matthews in the end zone that should have been a safety...

[vince]

In isolation, one or two of those calls might have changed the outcome of the game, but they weren't isolated. They were connected to the Bishop no-call PI, the Woodson no-call PI, the inexplicable hook on Crosby's last field goal attempt that doinked off the upright, Driver's drops, Lee's fumble, Finley's injury, 4th and goal, play calling, Matthews' injury, Bulaga likely got away with a hold or three, etc.

Everything that happened changed the game. Most of it was the coaches' and players' performance, not the refs.

[Pugger]

The refs are gonna miss some calls but the abuse Rodgers has received in a few games is an abomination. Every other QB gets calls if someone hits them in the helmet/head except AR. I'm not surprised he got a concussion. I'm just shocked it hasn't happened before yesterday.