Rodgers with a concussion in OT

[mraynrand]

Great to hear that Rodgers might be available on Sunday. I think. But are the Packers even going to be able to find 22 guys on the roster who are healthy enough to play? I would never have expected to see the Packers's season go down the toilet in the first five weeks the way this one has.

I swear to you, they are not finished yet....Don't believe in the no-win scenario

Well with Finley lost too now, my confidence is really starting to waiver. At some point we have to be realistic about all this. This isn't even close to a Superbowl team with half the damn starters missing. It's prob time to start looking to next season. Don't give up any draft picks.

Don't worry, we don't do that type of thing in Green Bay. Higher than a 6th anyhow.

Except to occasionally move up in the draft (Matthews, Burnett). I say save the picks, since you will probably spend too much for too little and who knows, maybe you will need that pick to move up in next year's draft to get another blue chip player like Matthews.

I agree with you.

I don't believe that you can trade for anyone that makes a meaningful difference right now.

Trading up? Don't know, don't care. Wasn't my point. My point was we don't have a track record for trading picks for players, and that isn't likely to change.

Well, it is part of your point, since if you blow picks trading now, you won't have them to move up. But, you and I agree that it's unlikely TT will use them and I think it's for the better.

[sharpe1027]

I agree that they probably won't but...

After the first few drafts people said TT would never trade up, yet he's done it successfully since then.

Who's to say that they wouldn't trade draft picks for players? We know that they've tried several times in the past. They don't have any big issue with the concept, even if they didn't successfully pull it off.

[hoosier]

In the absence of Finley and Grant on offense, and Jolly, Barnett, Burnett, Harris and Bigby on defense, and with severe declines in the play of guys like Woodson and Tauscher, a 6-10 record is seeming pretty realistic right now. Especially given the tough remaining schedule. 6-10 would also put the Packers in a high but not-too-high spot in the draft order, keeping them just barely out of the top 7 or 8. So no need for them to corrupt their soul by tanking, as that would only saddle them with some untested rookie slated for an outrageous contract. But damn, while I respect the never-say-die sentiment and agree with it to a certain point, it sure does suck to know that realistically the Packers' playoff fate is sealed with two and a half months of games remaining.

[denverYooper]

Rodgers back in practice today

Silverstein reported today that Rodgers took the majority of snaps in practice today. Seems he's ok.

[MadtownPacker]

Re: Rodgers back in practice today

Silverstein reported today that Rodgers took the majority of snaps in practice today. Seems he's ok.

What I was waiting to hear. Got homeboy on two FF leagues.

[denverYooper]

There was some discussion on Twitter today between Nagler, Bedard, Will Carroll, and some others whether or not Rodgers actually had a concussion or if it was faked in order to draw attention to the lack of helmet-to-helmet calls on him.

Speculation (qua conspiracy) hinged on the fact that Rodgers was seeing and "Independent Neurologist" today and no one knew that doctor's name. So they speculated it could have been made up. A discussion of HIPAA rights as they apply (or, actually, don't apply) to the NFL ensued. The fact that HIPAA rights don't apply to the NFL preclude that as a reason for the doctor's identity being obscure.

Personally, I feel that he probably just had a minor concussion and this borders on conspiracy fancy but it is interesting to ponder.

[woodbuck27]

yup, on that last throw when he took a helmet to helmet hit that got no flag

i'd say there's a good chance he doesn't play next week. then what the hell do we do, just have 1 QB on the roster?

finley says its not his knee he felt something weird in his hamstring

mathews said it wasn't a cramp, he pulled his hamstring again

I don't know about "good chance". I think if we got the ball back agian there was a "good chance" he would of went back into that game. THey had camera's on him the entire time he as on the sideline and he wasn't even being looked at by the medical staff, so if he did get a concussion, it definitely was a minor one. Just one of those "you can feel a headache, but it's not bad".

AR will be fine. No need to overreact.

As for Matthews, I sort of knew it was his hammy. Even without people saying much you could see him standing and walking around the sideline - if he has a knee injury your not doing that. He simply restrained his hammy that he has had a problem with the last two years - nothing to get overly worried about. He's going to be day to day, and probable to play next week.

The real question is if that hammy is going to linger his entire career.

As for finely, lets wait for the MRI. COuld be bad, could just be a bruise or a tweak. I'm not overly worried since we were fine without him for a stretch last season, but that does mean donald lee has to get healthy, and the two rookies will need to step their game up.

nice post. Thanks

[gbgary]

great news on him taking most of the snaps!! any fines levied on that hit?

[woodbuck27]

Re: Rodgers back in practice today

Silverstein reported today that Rodgers took the majority of snaps in practice today. Seems he's ok.

What I was waiting to hear. Got homeboy on two FF leagues.

Cool. Aaron Rodgers it seems to me is the identity of our team and he's gotta be an inspiration to the other Packers as well.

GO PACKERS!

[MadtownPacker]

great news on him taking most of the snaps!! any fines levied on that hit?

Thats a good question. Shit, did the cardinal that nailed him at the end of OT in last seasons playoff game get fined?

[Guiness]

great news on him taking most of the snaps!! any fines levied on that hit?

Thats a good question. Shit, did the cardinal that nailed him at the end of OT in last seasons playoff game get fined?

No, he wasn't - that would've involved the league admitting it was a blown call, and the wrong team went to the next round...

There's a 15yd penalty on that play, and the outcome is different. Not quite as bad as Testaverde's helmet TD, but not that far from it either.

[channtheman]

great news on him taking most of the snaps!! any fines levied on that hit?

Thats a good question. Shit, did the cardinal that nailed him at the end of OT in last seasons playoff game get fined?

No, he wasn't - that would've involved the league admitting it was a blown call, and the wrong team went to the next round...

There's a 15yd penalty on that play, and the outcome is different. Not quite as bad as Testaverde's helmet TD, but not that far from it either.

What is upsetting about that play (and yeah I'm beating a dead horse but the topic has been brought up already) is that if that same hit had happened to Brady or Manning you know they would have gotten the call. Hell, I think most QB's in the league would have gotten that call. For whatever reason, the refs like to turn the other way when Rodgers is the QB.

[Pugger]

And this lack of 'protection' afforded to Rodgers is one of my biggest beefs. As you said, the Washington game isn't the first time Rodgers has been hit in the head and until MM and company make more of a big deal about it - fines be damned - this will continue.

[pbmax]

ALERT: Greg Bedard May Have Been Right, Apocalypse To Start Friday Morning at 2:00 AM CDT.

From the JSO, Silverstein, dated Oct. 14th, 2010, 10:10 PM

By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel[/b]]But Rodgers admitted Thursday that he wasn't feeling quite right before that hit and it wasn't until the last play that it became clear to the medical staff that he had suffered head trauma.

"The final hit definitely increased what I was feeling, but having never had a concussion before, it was definitely a learning process to understand how my body feels," Rodgers said. "Obviously, I've been dinged in the head a number of times, everything from in high school seeing the stars and stuff to the different shots you take along the way.

[pbmax]

Lori Nickel turns Aaron Rodgers quote about this being his "first concussion" almost into a statement of fact by mentioning those words as the link to the article with no quotes.

This, despite the fact that Rodgers admits he has gotten "dinged" and "saw stars" before. Which would mean he has had prior concussions, but has never referred to them as such.

Perhaps JSO and Aaron should read the NFL poster on concussions: