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  • #91
    Our teams coaching staff is evaluating how to better utilize WR Greg Jennings. I believe they will accomplish that as a positve result.

    Has MM grown in his style of coaching or learned from mistakes or style of being our teams HC? MM calls offensive plays and our Rodgers led offense secures a solid lead in the game. My observation is that MM goes into conservative mode, after out team secures a comfortable lead and our team secures a close win or the opposition gets a come from behind win. The game seeming secure, becomes too close for comfort or is stolen from us. This has been a theme we have seen more or less since MM has become 'the Packers' HC.

    Why?

    I don't know how Ted Thompson evaluates his HC and coaching staff throughout a season...season to season? I'm not qualified to criticize TT.

    As a a dedicated Green Bay Packer and NFL fan. I desire success for my team. I set goals related to my progress as an NFL fan. I expect the same from TT and MM and his coaching staff.

    As a teacher/leader/manager I've evaluated growth/progress based in goal setting. A basic approach towords success or ' the report card ' has worked for me as an evaluation tool of goal setting. I hold that no manager,coach,player should be allowed a free run. Then evaluated after contract tenure. Evaluation's a preogressive dynamic process towords seeing success in terms of goal setting.

    Do TT and MM utilize a similiar basic approach towords securing Green Bay Packer success in terms of wins?

    OUR team is presently under fire in terms of adversity. I ask myself....are TT and MM (coachinf staff) working day to day to realistically re-evaluate goals? I believe they are. I remain optimistic. Our team is in a solid position to secure a playoff spot. It remains to be seen if that result determines progress over 2009 results.

    I have not felt that our team was set to win a Super Bowl this season. The pieces are not in place until we see them in terms of results. May we see them in 2010? I wait patiently for that.

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    • #92
      Concern: Concussion Symptoms

      Why should anyone in Pro Sports ... report symptoms of a possible concussion? In relation to a positive diagnosis of a concussion. What is the responsible follow-up?

      Aaron Rodgers has passed the initial tests, but the recovery process is ongoing.



      woodbuck27 ... Maybe? ... question yourself:

      Hypothetically. Your the HC of the Green Bay Packers.

      Would you have rested Aaron Rodgers outright Vs Miami? or Gone with exactly what we are seeing planed based on the decisions Re: A. Rodgers to date, and since he was removed fr. last Sunday's Packers @ Washington game?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by woodbuck27
        Hypothetically. Your the HC of the Green Bay Packers.

        Would you have rested Aaron Rodgers outright Vs Miami? or Gone with exactly what we are seeing planed based on the decisions Re: A. Rodgers to date, and since he was removed fr. last Sunday's Packers @ Washington game?
        Firstly, I am of the firm belief that the QB sneak he called on 3rd down is where he took the shot. If I am HC, I never call that play unless it's life and death. As I posted before, the commentary out of the booth after that play was that Rodgers looked very shaken up.

        On the very next play, he throws an uncharacteristically poor pass that hits the defender in the helmet.

        Now, was he showing signs of being concussed? If not, he still gives you the best chance to win and I send him out. If so, no way do I risk the greatest asset to The Packers that they'll have over 10-15 years (knock on wood).

        I don''t believe he was/is conconcussed, despite his poor pass ratio post the QB sneak. He was definitely shaken and had happy feet, but that's pretty understandable the way Clifton was playing.

        I believe M3 was lobbying for Rodgers to get more protection from the league in the most diplomatic way possible.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Tarlam!
          Originally posted by woodbuck27
          Hypothetically. Your the HC of the Green Bay Packers.

          Would you have rested Aaron Rodgers outright Vs Miami? or Gone with exactly what we are seeing planed based on the decisions Re: A. Rodgers to date, and since he was removed fr. last Sunday's Packers @ Washington game?
          Firstly, I am of the firm belief that the QB sneak he called on 3rd down is where he took the shot. If I am HC, I never call that play unless it's life and death. As I posted before, the commentary out of the booth after that play was that Rodgers looked very shaken up.

          On the very next play, he throws an uncharacteristically poor pass that hits the defender in the helmet.

          Now, was he showing signs of being concussed? If not, he still gives you the best chance to win and I send him out. If so, no way do I risk the greatest asset to The Packers that they'll have over 10-15 years (knock on wood).

          I don''t believe he was/is conconcussed, despite his poor pass ratio post the QB sneak. He was definitely shaken and had happy feet, but that's pretty understandable the way Clifton was playing.

          I believe M3 was lobbying for Rodgers to get more protection from the league in the most diplomatic way possible.
          Solid observation, analysis and follow -up Tarlam!

          Peace Packer fan.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Tarlam!
            Originally posted by woodbuck27
            Hypothetically. Your the HC of the Green Bay Packers.

            Would you have rested Aaron Rodgers outright Vs Miami? or Gone with exactly what we are seeing planed based on the decisions Re: A. Rodgers to date, and since he was removed fr. last Sunday's Packers @ Washington game?
            Firstly, I am of the firm belief that the QB sneak he called on 3rd down is where he took the shot. If I am HC, I never call that play unless it's life and death. As I posted before, the commentary out of the booth after that play was that Rodgers looked very shaken up.

            On the very next play, he throws an uncharacteristically poor pass that hits the defender in the helmet.

            Now, was he showing signs of being concussed? If not, he still gives you the best chance to win and I send him out. If so, no way do I risk the greatest asset to The Packers that they'll have over 10-15 years (knock on wood).

            I don''t believe he was/is conconcussed, despite his poor pass ratio post the QB sneak. He was definitely shaken and had happy feet, but that's pretty understandable the way Clifton was playing.

            I believe M3 was lobbying for Rodgers to get more protection from the league in the most diplomatic way possible.
            Agree 100%
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            • #96
              Originally posted by vince
              In isolation, one or two of those calls might have changed the outcome of the game, but they weren't isolated. They were connected to the Bishop no-call PI, the Woodson no-call PI, the inexplicable hook on Crosby's last field goal attempt that doinked off the upright, Driver's drops, Lee's fumble, Finley's injury, 4th and goal, play calling, Matthews' injury, Bulaga likely got away with a hold or three, etc.

              Everything that happened changed the game. Most of it was the coaches' and players' performance, not the refs.
              I clearly said that in this game the refs were not the difference in the entirety. I am merely pissed about our QB taking uncalled head shots.

              In many other games the refs have been the difference. And the Bishop play was classic scrape and roll....the way the coaches teach it. That play is NEVER PI unless you get there blatantly early.
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              • #97
                The latest news from JSO looks good, but I hope the Packers are being very careful here:
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                • #98
                  I do agree that MM has taken the best political approach to calling out the headshots AR is taking without flags. It's not like it just happened once, it's happened several times with no calls... calls that other QB's are getting.

                  However, political approaches don't get a lot of media attention - in fact, the media sort of let it lie that AR took a helmet to helmet the play before the fumble/int return for a TD... despite the blatent hit.

                  Until this concussion, there wasn't much attention payed to the helmet to helmet hits AR keeps taking, and really, it doesn't seem that there has been any more attention since, specifcally since everything points to AR not being in real danger of missing game, unlike Kolb.

                  Kolb's concussion was obvious the moment it happened. AR's was minor, and something he would have to speak up about for anyone to know he had it. He said so himself that he has to be 100% honest with the staff about his injury.

                  I understand why helmet to helmet hits are not allowed. They aren't allowed really on any palyer, with teh QB being highlighted due to the late and "high" hits they often take. But at some point it just gets rediculous.

                  Credit to AR's head and body for reacting well, and stuff like this does, indeed, make what manning and a favre are doing (in terms of never missing starts) even more impressive, since you're always one hit away, and there are so many different ways you can be hit to make that happen.

                  If I was a coach, and he was medically and physically able to perform, I would play him, but you HAVE to monitor him closely. If he looks even a tad woosy after a hit, or hsi throws all become widely innacurate at some point - you have to pull him. With things being cut back in practice, you wont really know if he is completely over it till he gets some live game action.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
                    The latest news from JSO looks good, but I hope the Packers are being very careful here.
                    Yeah, so at best it was a mild concussion. It's easy to claim after the 'Skins score that he was removed from the game - there weren't any more Packer snaps, so, we don't really know if that's true or just semantics.

                    The sheer speed of the "recovery" is nothing short of astonishing. So, while I may be way off base and The Packers may be telling the truth, I don't buy any of it.

                    To me, this is a (commendable) approach to drawing attention to the fact tha Rodgers is getting unfairly creamed and the refs aren't doing their jobs protecting him. More power to them for playing it politically correct, yet on the front page.

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                    • No fine yet for the perpetrator on Rodgers last pass. What is the best video link you have to watch the play again?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • The Army has developed a blood test for concussions.

                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • Originally posted by pbmax
                          No fine yet for the perpetrator on Rodgers last pass. What is the best video link you have to watch the play again?

                          here it is...at 3:30 of the vid...

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                          • Originally posted by pbmax
                            No fine yet for the perpetrator on Rodgers last pass. What is the best video link you have to watch the play again?
                            Originally posted by @RobDemovsky
                            #Redskins DL Jeremy Jarmon was fined $5,000 for the hit that concussed Rodgers.
                            Originally posted by @jasonjwilde
                            The official word: Jarmon "unnecessarily struck QB in head area." Rodgers got a concussion; 15-yard penalty would've erased INT.
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                            • Originally posted by gbgary
                              Originally posted by pbmax
                              No fine yet for the perpetrator on Rodgers last pass. What is the best video link you have to watch the play again?

                              here it is...at 3:30 of the vid...

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sar2oh8ajI
                              Thanks gary. That is the same highlight video I saw at NFL.com, but could not get it to show the hit that clearly. For some reason, the You Tube player does.
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                              • Don't believe this has been posted here but Jarmon was fined for his hit on Rodgers - $5,000.
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