Winners and Losers

[vince]

A couple people pointed out Neal as a winner. He can be a disruptive force in there. In his relatively limited time these first two games he's played, he's already shown a lot.

He even showed good range in pass coverage in the first half on a play where he forced McNabb to overthrow his receiver near the endzone.

Peprah showed that he's not a bad safety, although he got beat deep a couple times, which can't happen.

Captain also pointed out that Rodgers should have tucked and run with the ball on a few occasions today. I thought that too watching the game.

I saw the same things mmmdk saw in the game. I would not put Woodson in the winners group this game at all, much less say he's an obvious winner. Overall though, Capers rallied the troops and did well with what he had. Not having a legitimate OLB who can go out and beat his man in the second half will stress out a coordinator's game plan. He still was able to scheme some pressure.

McCarthy/Rodgers were not well prepared to counter what the defense threw at them.

[denverYooper]

A couple people pointed out Neal as a winner. He can be a disruptive force in there. In his relatively limited time these first two games he's played, he's already shown a lot.

He even showed good range in pass coverage in the first half on a play where he forced McNabb to overthrow his receiver near the endzone.

There were 2 plays where he leaped up and almost grabbed a couple of passes. I won't be surprised to see some tipped passes or even an INT from him this year.

Overall I was impressed with the D line. Huge play by Raji near the end of the game to blow up that hand-off and push a long FG longer. It was too bad they drew 2 PI calls right afterward.

[mraynrand]

McCarthy/Rodgers were not well prepared to counter what the defense threw at them.

Washington adjusted, Stubby did not.

[Tarlam!]

I'm glad somebody mentioned corey Hall as a winner. I counted 3 ST tackles, at least one of which was arguably a TD saver.

I thought Chuck didn't do too well, frankly, but I wouldn't put him in the losers column.

I think Dom called great bltzes towards the end of the game and the D executed well enough to keep the Packers in the game. But clearly, CMIII is a difference maker and he was sorely missed.

I'm encouraged by the play of the 2nd and 3rd stringers that played. Sure there were some blown plays, but overall, they stepped up.

Definite losers were the WRs for there ability to drop the pill, even when A-Rod hit 'em between the numbers, M3 for not believing in the ground game, A-Rod for his happy feet and Clifton, although on one sack he allowed, Buck or Aikman put it down to crowd noise. I dunno, he just looked outmatched to me.

[mraynrand]

Definitely missed the Claymaker

[pbmax]

Mike Singletary. I truly feel bad that I am enjoying this. But the 0-5 49ers seems to me less a condemnation of Singletary (who probably did not have the necessary background), than of the talking heads who celebrated his promotion. They called it long overdue and after a promising start claimed to have been proven right.

[Tarlam!]

I wish M3 had some of Singletary's passion. M3 comes across as a Scout Master to me. No doubt he's a great QBs coach. I don't know how much input Philbin has in the offense, so, I'm not even prepared to say he's make a great OC.

I posed the question in a thread in the preseason "Do we have the right coaching staff?" and most, if not all said "pretty much".

Amazing how things change in such a short time.

[pbmax]

I wish M3 had some of Singletary's passion. M3 comes across as a Scout Master to me. No doubt he's a great QBs coach. I don't know how much input Philbin has in the offense, so, I'm not even prepared to say he's make a great OC.

I posed the question in a thread in the preseason "Do we have the right coaching staff?" and most, if not all said "pretty much".

Amazing how things change in such a short time.

The Packers do seem to come close to a signature win and just fall short too many times. But that Redskins team isn't terrible and we were missing 1/3 of the starting players* on the road. Its not a terrible loss, but its a missed opportunity.

And I do agree they have come close but short too often. It is telling. There are too many loose parts on this VW bus.


* I am just going to count. Finley, Barnett, Grant, Burnett, Pickett, Tauscher, Chillar and Shields for most to all of the game. Plus Matthews, Donald Lee (part of the game). And that is without Harris and Bigby.

[MadtownPacker]

Winners:

Jenkins for being all over the place.

Jackson for having the longest run since last year.

Quarles for jumping in when he was expecting to fill up Gatorade cups.

Losers:

M3 for not talking the easy money with the FG.

DD dropping passes, Jennings not getting open all game.

Woodson for impersonating ahmad carroll.

PackerRats for having the webs shittiest posters.

[Joemailman]

I don't know, but somebody over there is getting kicked in the balls.

Start at old man river clifton

I kind of agree. Clifton was also pathetic on the failed QB sneak by Rodgers on 3rd and 1.

[Bretsky]

LOSER

SLOCUM- On one play in the first half he had to grab Brad Jones from the sideline to let him know he was suppose to be in

on a key field goal we saw a player sprinting to the sideline because we had too many players on the field. They snap the ball and they get a 1st

Absolutely INEXCUSABLE

[The Leaper]

Loser #1: McCarthy - the guy continues to find new ways to make incredibly dumb decisions...i.e. not kicking a FG to go up 13-0 on the road and givign momentum back to the home team...as well as continuing to make his regular screwups...like STILL not firing Slocum...why the hell does this guy still have his job? A 3 year old could coach special teams better.

Loser #2: Slocum - McCarthy should be fired immediately simply for not having upgraded from this dumbass a long time ago. It is a damn chinese fire drill on every special teams play. If the 12th guy isn't rapidly trying to get off the field before the play, then the 11th guy is rapidly trying to get on the field during the play. There is no reason why Slocum should have his job on Monday after that debacle.

Loser #3: Clifton - granted, it's not really his fault but Thompson's. Thompson knew Tauscher and Clifton were on their last legs 3-4 years ago...but just barely got around to finding ONE replacement this year when Bulaga fell into his lap. Clifton simply is not a starting caliber LT in this league anymore. That is painfully obvious.

Honorable mention...Driver, Rodgers, Jennings

Winners: The defense as a whole. Despite having players dropping like flies before, during, after, and in a fourth dimension, the defense dominated play for 3 quarters before injuries and fatigue finally caught up. Too bad the offense couldn't put more than 13 points on the board against one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

[pbmax]

LOSER

SLOCUM- On one play in the first half he had to grab Brad Jones from the sideline to let him know he was suppose to be in

on a key field goal we saw a player sprinting to the sideline because we had too many players on the field. They snap the ball and they get a 1st

Absolutely INEXCUSABLE

There were a few new people on Special Teams this week and during the game due to injuries and new starters. While its not an excuse, it was not a typical game scenario. And I don't think they had a substitution related penalty.

They still defended returns poorly though.

[pbmax]

And while I agree Clifton and especially Tauscher are getting way too close to done, their QB did the O line no favors by mis-identifying several pressures from the Redskins in the second half. At one point, Clifton had to go out wide for a blitzer while Colledge had to block an end or OLB. That is not tactically sound.

I'd also like to know how they missed a double LB blitz up the gut. Even if Sitton peels off to take one like he should have, there was still a free rusher. Wells or Rodgers had trouble reading that D.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Winners:
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Loud road Packer fans - awesome. "KUHN"

THank you, I still have a sore throat two days later!