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  • #46
    I was thinking to myself when we scored the late TD "you know, maybe we should go for 2 and just end it here. We haven't been winning close games lately, especially in OT, and this team is decimated with a lack of depth"

    I don't disagree with taking the tie and going to OT, but I didn't think it would be great if we went for it instead, just based on the health of the football team.

    In either case, the defense hasn't really been that bad. No pressure ont eh QB, team got yards on the ground, but bottom line is they didn't really score much - and our offense failed to put points on the board. We need to revert back to dinkin gan dunking. 3 step drop and throw type patterns. We have poor pass protection and no finley over the middle. Time to go back to the quick throw offense.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by packerbacker1234
      I was thinking to myself when we scored the late TD "you know, maybe we should go for 2 and just end it here. We haven't been winning close games lately, especially in OT, and this team is decimated with a lack of depth"

      I don't disagree with taking the tie and going to OT, but I didn't think it would be great if we went for it instead, just based on the health of the football team.

      In either case, the defense hasn't really been that bad. No pressure ont eh QB, team got yards on the ground, but bottom line is they didn't really score much - and our offense failed to put points on the board. We need to revert back to dinkin gan dunking. 3 step drop and throw type patterns. We have poor pass protection and no finley over the middle. Time to go back to the quick throw offense.
      I felt like we didn't belong there at the point and were playing with the houses money so to speak. I simply don't think a coach can go for it in that situation without taking a ton of heat. Honestly I was just glad that no players were knocked out for the season and would have excepted the loss knowing that at least we won't have to play another series or two and expose our team to more unnecessary football where they could be more injured. Plus we are 1-5 in OT with MM.
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      • #48
        Re: Snap Thoughts

        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        Originally posted by bobblehead
        Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
        The NFL has sent a message to the league that it is acceptable to T off on ARod. They may fine you after, but they will NOT throw a flag. Hit him as hard and illegally as you want. It's ok.
        did ocheapshoto even get a fine?
        $5k
        but no flag
        "Open season"

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        • #49
          I was kinda hopeing he would go for 2 at the end of the game too. i wouldn't have blamed him if he tried.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Little Whiskey
            I was kinda hopeing he would go for 2 at the end of the game too. i wouldn't have blamed him if he tried.
            Me either. Going for the win and all that.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Little Whiskey
              I was kinda hopeing he would go for 2 at the end of the game too. i wouldn't have blamed him if he tried.
              The more I think about it the smarter it would have been. I think its safe to say that OT is a 50% success rate and I'm pretty sure that the NFL-wide 2-pt conversion rate is nearly the same in recent seasons (can anybody dig this up?). You'd like to think that while not particularly impressive today that an offense like Green Bay's could convert a little higher. At the very least it keeps your injury-wrecked team from playing unnecessary football.

              Shanahan went for 2 in the same situation a couple of years ago in an ugly win over the Chargers. That was the game where Hochuli screwed the Chargers super hard on some other controversial call. Afterwards Shanahan said something about how he just decided to go for it because he was playing with the house's money or something.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by 3irty1
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                Shanahan went for 2 in the same situation a couple of years ago in an ugly win over the Chargers. That was the game where Hochuli screwed the Chargers super hard on some other controversial call. Afterwards Shanahan said something about how he just decided to go for it because he was playing with the house's money or something.
                I always thought he went for gamesmanship. He new it was a bad call and gave SD a chance to beat them if they could.

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                • #53
                  In my opinion, you don't go for 2 in that situation when your QB is barely completing 50% of his passes on the day.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Joemailman
                    In my opinion, you don't go for 2 in that situation when your QB is barely completing 50% of his passes on the day.
                    I would watch the game again, but i deleted it (intentionally). How much of the 50% was drops?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      In my opinion, you don't go for 2 in that situation when your QB is barely completing 50% of his passes on the day.
                      I would watch the game again, but i deleted it (intentionally). How much of the 50% was drops?
                      Not a lot today I don't believe, but does it matter? I wasn't trying to single out Arod. My point is that when you are barely completing 50%, no matter the reason, going for 2 there would be too much of a gamble.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        In my opinion, you don't go for 2 in that situation when your QB is barely completing 50% of his passes on the day.
                        I would watch the game again, but i deleted it (intentionally). How much of the 50% was drops?
                        Not a lot today I don't believe, but does it matter? I wasn't trying to single out Arod. My point is that when you are barely completing 50%, no matter the reason, going for 2 there would be too much of a gamble.
                        I agree it would have been a huge gamble. The typical answer is play for the tie at home and the win on the road, generally because your back is against the wall on the road. I would have been happy to see him go for it, because this roster has GB's back against the wall.

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                        • #57
                          It's funny that the unit with the most injuries, the D, is playing way better the unit with fewer injuries, namely the O.
                          Coaching? Play calling? Hmm!
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by mission
                            Green Bay is 1-11 in their last 12 games decided by 4 points or less.
                            They're just good enough to break your heart.
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                            • #59
                              Quite honestly, the loss didn't hurt as much because I just assumed they'd lose. Let's be real here. If you had told me before the year that Grant, Finley, Tauscher, Pickett, Neal, Barnett, Matthews, Chillar, Bigby, Burnett, Harris, Martin, etc. would all be hurt, I'd tell you that it would be hard for us to win a game. I'm actually surprised we've hung in games. I've come to the early realization that this isn't our year. This isn't the same team that we all had Super Bowl aspirations over. You just can't overcome THAT many injuries.
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                              • #60
                                Patler could find good stats, but the best I could find was a site that showed two-point conversion percentages per team -- last year, we were at 60%, with no attempts this year. League average in 2009 was 40%, but it has been as high as 60%, according to an NY Times story.

                                I don't blame him, but I would have gone for two. It was asking a lot of a jury-rigged D to make a stop in OT (even though they did), and I think the Fins were kind of discombobulated after the way Rodgers walked in the TD. Hit 'em when they're on their heels, you know.

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