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  • #16
    MM panics too much in crunch time. The players also panic too much as well (even Woodson looses his cool at critical times.)

    MM reminds of Mile Sherman.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mraynrand
      The 1-11 is with Rodgers and Stubby. I think Stubby was 2-3 with Favre in under 4 point games (Two wins were at Denver and at KC in 2007 I think)

      This team cannot win close games
      Radio last night said McCarthy is 1-11 in his tenure in Green Bay, which would be both Favre & Rodgers, and 1-6 in OT in his tenure as well.
      "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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      • #18
        According to my copy of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Robert S. McGinn Esq., reports the following:

        Rodgers is 1-11, the win was Detroit two games ago.

        Brett Favre was 33-30 while he was a Packer

        Mike McCarthy is 4-13 overall and 3-2 with the Candid Camera Kid.

        Oddly enough, Holmgren had a losing record in these close games (though by only one game) while Sherman was over 500 and Rhodes was exactly 500.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ND72
          Originally posted by mraynrand
          The 1-11 is with Rodgers and Stubby. I think Stubby was 2-3 with Favre in under 4 point games (Two wins were at Denver and at KC in 2007 I think)

          This team cannot win close games
          Radio last night said McCarthy is 1-11 in his tenure in Green Bay, which would be both Favre & Rodgers, and 1-6 in OT in his tenure as well.
          From McGinn:

          "But if McCarthy and Rodgers intend to turn this season around, don't bet on them being successful should there be many more games decided by four or fewer points.

          In those games, Rodgers has a 1-11 record, a horrendous .083 winning percentage that would be .000 had it not been for a 28-26 victory over Detroit two weeks ago.

          Brett Favre, who will lead the Vikings into Lambeau Field six days from now, posted a 33-30 (.524) record, counting playoffs, in games decided by four or fewer points as the Packers' starter over 16 years.

          Meanwhile, McCarthy is 4-13 in tight games, including 3-2 with Favre under center."



          I got the Favre record backwards, so I don't know what the other Favre victory is. McCarthy sucks in close games, and Rodgers is gawdawful. He's responsible for a good deal of those losses (and/or Stubby playcalling)...
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            Infuriating. The first thing is something that can be fixed but won't be, not until McCarthy is as sick of it as we are and starts grabbing face masks and screaming at players one by one.
            This is what infuriates me the most. I wish he had a dose of the fatherly Jim Bates passion and Singletary I will kick in your jock strap if that ever happens again fear factor in him. Instead, he is the epitome of a deer in the headlights coach.

            I also wish the defense had a Ray Lewis or LT on the field. Claymaker is a great talent, but he's not going to strike fear into a teamate that screws his assignment up.

            My 3rd wish is that A-Rod starts to make his offense more accountable by getting their faces when they miss blocks or drop passes. He's too nice.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax
              According to my copy of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Robert S. McGinn Esq., reports the following:

              Rodgers is 1-11, the win was Detroit two games ago.

              Brett Favre was 33-30 while he was a Packer

              Mike McCarthy is 4-13 overall and 3-2 with the Candid Camera Kid.

              Oddly enough, Holmgren had a losing record in these close games (though by only one game) while Sherman was over 500 and Rhodes was exactly 500.

              ah...Ok then. Maybe I heard them wrong on the radio, who knoews. Interesting though...definately hate being on that side of the table.
              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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              • #22
                a pile of close losses = a pile of heartache

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                • #23
                  Glad this is picked up; a PR poster mentioned the 1-11 during or just after game vs Fins & I (gladly) provided the 1-5 OT record fact.

                  In close games any descent or great coach are at .500 or slightly better.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ThunderDan
                    I think the failure in the 1-11 is completely different this year than 2008.

                    In 2008 Arod got the lead over and over in the 4th Q just to see the D give it back up.

                    In 2010 I would put our woes on the ST and the O not producing.
                    Well said!
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pbmax
                      According to my copy of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Robert S. McGinn Esq., reports the following:

                      Rodgers is 1-11, the win was Detroit two games ago.

                      Brett Favre was 33-30 while he was a Packer

                      Mike McCarthy is 4-13 overall and 3-2 with the Candid Camera Kid.

                      Oddly enough, Holmgren had a losing record in these close games (though by only one game) while Sherman was over 500 and Rhodes was exactly 500.
                      Bedard did a piece awhile back (long while) basically showing that "good teams" do not necessarily win close games and whether you won or lost them seemed to be split about 50/50 between good teams and bad ones.

                      He had all the numbers to back it up. If his piece was accurate (and it sure seemed to be) you can chalk up the packers being on the wrong side of the 4 point games to "bad luck".

                      I am more inclined to say our team plays in a way that leaves us with no momentum and fatigued which is why we wilt in the 4th quarters (although in '08 Rodgers got us the lead many times with 5 minutes left).
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