Not good enough, not good enough, not good enough.

[sheepshead]

Re: Not good enough, not good enough, not good enough.

Offense - not good enough.
Defense - not good enough.
Special Teams - not good enough.

Good teams win a few games each year when one aspect of the team carries the team even though one or both of the others is/are having a bad game. The offense scores a bunch on a day the defense struggles. The defense shuts a team down on a day the offense struggles. Special teams scores TDs, gets turnovers or wins field position battles when the O and/or D aren't at their best.

That isn't happening for the Packers right now. No aspect of the team is stepping forward to win games that are there to be won, especially the last two weeks. The offense isn't good enough, the defense isn't good enough and special teams aren't good enough to pull out close fought games on any regular basis.

Kind of feels like last year at this time, doesn't it???

I disagree. I think we are good enough(injuries aside). Every loss has been by 3 points. I dont think the prognosticators were wrong about our team as a favorite. First, there's tremendous parody, particularly in the NFC. I think its coaching on the offensive side and I think this falls squarely on our head coach. He has never done anything to convince me he is the guy to take us to February football. Our much maligned general manager has put a very very good team on the field. We are good enough, we're just not playing up to our capabilities.

[The Leaper]

Re: Not good enough, not good enough, not good enough.

Right now, no part of the Packer team seems capable of picking up the others on a bad day. They aren't good enough to do that.

The defense is...when reasonably healthy. Yeah, the whole team screwed the pooch in Chicago going penalty crazy. However, the fact that a greatly depleted defense has given this team multiple chances to win at the end of the last 2 games is good enough for me.

The offense is the unit that deserves the lion share of blame...too much talent to only be scoring 20 a game, even with the loss of Grant and Finley. Questionable coaching moves also factor in heavily...NO component of the team can overcome major coaching blunders like skipping an easy FG on the road and risking change of momentum on a 4th down play when you don't have a run game and your best red zone threat isn't on the field.

[packerbacker1234]

Honestly, even with all the injuries... I have to say this: The defense has played "good enough" to win every single game we have played this year. The points have been limited.

Unfortunately, our offense things scoring 14 points a game should be good enough. Ask the vikings how well that did for them earlier this year.

[Joemailman]

A trip down memory lane.

[Fritz]

A trip down memory lane.

Funny, since Patler has been back and has started a couple of threads (eg, Rasul Douglas thread), when I saw this one I thought it was a new thread. So I read Patler's post and was nodding in agreement, thinking he'd just posted this new thread. After reading a couple of replies I was thinking about posting that while the defense was holding opposing teams to respectable point totals (except against Dallas), they were also not finishing games like a great defense, say the Baltimore Ravens of 2005 or so. Then I realized the thread was from back in 2010.

But great bump, because it resonates. I DO feel this team has not taken advantage of the opportunities. In fact, I predicted a Carolina game in which either the offense bailed out the defense, or the defense bailed out the offense. I think I predicted the latter; I think I predicted a Green Bay 16 - 13 win.

But the defense let down at the end of the game on that long run by Dowdle that got them into FG position. lack of killer instinct. Or injuries. Yet Carolina's offensive line was decimated, and they managed to block well enough to run all over that Packer defense. So using injuries to 'splain seems pretty lame.

And McManus missing that FG was huge - and did it play into The Flower's weird going-for-it-on-fourth-and-eight later? However, no realistic Packer fan expects the ST to bail out anybody. Hell, if they can bail enough water to stay afloat that would be a win.

Yet that thread, for all its resonance and pessimism, reminds us that the Packers did okay that year.

Thanks, Joe.