How's Marshawn Lynch Doing...?

[retailguy]

MM never said Brandon Jackson is a good every down back.

I remember the quote. It was a question about being an every down back in the NFL. He said he was. (I remember raising my eyebrows and saying "whatever")

I'm all on board with "sticking up for your guys". I also believe that you can do that without misleading or being untruthful. I took it the same way the op did, that McCarthy believed it. Don't know the guy, have no idea if it's true or not, and today, don't care, however, I thought it was a fair point for discussion.

[get louder at lambeau]

Well, Jackson did have over 1000 total yards this year. He's not an ideal feature back, but he's not the worst either. Not sure why you're so emotionally invested in him failing, retail, but don't be that guy. He's a Packer, and he had a great TD yesterday.

[retailguy]

Well, Jackson did have over 1000 total yards this year. He's not an ideal feature back, but he's not the worst either. Not sure why you're so emotionally invested in him failing, retail, but don't be that guy. He's a Packer, and he had a great TD yesterday.

I'm not investing in Jackson failing. He is what he is, a great 3rd down back. His blitz pickup is excellent as well as his ability to catch the ball. Running? He looks like he is auditioning for "dancing with the stars" and has done that consistently since his rookie year. In my opinion, that makes him a poor "every down back".

I'm really hopeful that Starks will become what we all hoped Jackson would be - an every down back.

[mraynrand]

This thread blows

[pbmax]

Still looking for an answer Vince. Was McCarthy telling the truth, or was he just "sticking up for his guy" and bullshitting us? I really want to know if I can believe McCarthy when he talks to me, or if I have to ask someone what he really means.

Do you really believe it to be a flaw for a coach to be discreet (or less than forthcoming) about the flaws of his players?

[retailguy]

Do you really believe it to be a flaw for a coach to be discreet (or less than forthcoming) about the flaws of his players?

PB, I don't believe he was just "sticking up for his guy". I think he answered the question honestly, and he believed it. But that wasn't my point.

I saw Vince's response as taking McCarthy's and the OP's point out of context. OP wanted to point out that he believed that McCarthy answered honestly, as did I. Instead, he got ridiculed.

I see Vince respond frequently with quotes from the team and McCarthy to support his views, and if the OP's quote was tainted (or out of context), then shouldn't other quotes be tainted too? If we have to analyze and agree with what the team is saying, I don't see the point in reporting it, or debating it.

I guess it just rubbed me wrong. I see it over and over (not just from Vince), and this time it got the better of me.

[pbmax]

I just think its hard to take any coach's public comments at face value and as the complete truth. They have too many incentives to be less than forthcoming. And it doesn't take much mental flexibility to believe Jackson can handle the every down back role and still recognize that he would be close to replacement level in that role.

So for the OPs original point (I think this was it) that it might have been McCarthy's steadfast belief in Jackson that cost the Packers Lynch, that seems one big leap too many. That, plus the Lynch trade happened after Week 4, when McCarthy had two additional weeks to be underwhelmed by Jackson full time. A period, I think, that saw him give Kuhn a feature role at TB.