Stupid NFL Rule - End Zone

[bobblehead]

NFL just confirmed that it should have been a TD catch. LOL sorry Vikings

I still agree with the call in the game. The ball hit the ground first. This just adds to my feeling that the NFL and their officials are run very poorly.

If that is true the NFL is fucked. CJ catches a ball, holds it out with one hand to show he has it, rolls over, puts it to the ground to celebrate and the NFL later confirms the officials got it right...no TD.

Shiancoe is flying through the air, catches it, falls to the ground, the tip hits the ground pushing it up in his hands...catch and a TD.

Really, I might be down to only baseball that I can watch before long.

PS...did they mention the blatant PI between jennings and walker since they were reviewing things, or did they only step up and mention that chilly was right about the TD?

[hoosier]

My biggest issue was that they called Shiancoe's a TD and felt they had enough evidence to overturn that call. How many times have we seen evidence that refs say wasn't enough to overturn a call? You can question whether this was a TD or not, but to say there was clear evidence to overturn the call on the field, not in my opinion.

The clear evidence would be that the ball clearly touched the ground and his hold on it clearly shifted as that was happening. He didn't bobble it but he didn't have a tight enough grip on the ball for it to remain in the same position either. Look at the replay on nfl.com if you doubt that. I'm not sure what the rule book says, but that sounds to me like as good a definition of "maintaining control" as any.

His hands move, but I think anytime a receiver lands in that manner his hands are going to move. Question is whether the ball was secured or not. And I still don't see "clear evidence" that it wasn't. I would have completely understood if the ref didn't call it a catch in real time and would not have expected the replay to show evidence otherwise.

The point isn't whether his hands move, it's whether or not the ball changes position in relation to his hands. He had has hands around the ball the entire time, but the ball was clearly moving around inside his hands. I figured that ball movement must have been the rationale for calling it incomplete. On still further review, I guess I would have been wrong.

[Bretsky]

IMO the Vikes got screwed on that deal.......and I was happy to see it

[pbmax]

NFL just confirmed that it should have been a TD catch. LOL sorry Vikings

That was just a weird game. I am not surprised after I convinced myself it was questionable, that they then confirm TD.

[Bretsky]

can you url the article noting the official pissed that call up ?

No surpirse if that's the case; I thought this was the mother of all f'ck ups and if the referee didn't know the rule he should be suspended

I heard this crew was the same squad that f'cked up the AZ game. Maybe it was a make up call for the ending our playoffs

[Joemailman]

So let me get this right. If a guy catches the ball in the end zone, gets both feet down, falls down and loses control of the ball it's not a catch. But if a guy flies through the air, gets both hands on the ball and the nose of the football touches the ground before any part of his body does, it is a catch?

[ThunderDan]

can you url the article noting the official pissed that call up ?No surpirse if that's the case; I thought this was the mother of all f'ck ups and if the referee didn't know the rule he should be suspended

I heard this crew was the same squad that f'cked up the AZ game. Maybe it was a make up call for the ending our playoffs

No doubt. I didn't think they made any statements until after the last game of the week which would be Dallas vs NYG that is on right now.

[pbmax]

can you url the article noting the official pissed that call up ?

No surpirse if that's the case; I thought this was the mother of all f'ck ups and if the referee didn't know the rule he should be suspended

I heard this crew was the same squad that f'cked up the AZ game. Maybe it was a make up call for the ending our playoffs

So far all I can find are links back to the Chilldress press conference today. So its on Brad's word alone so far. Nothing on JSO either.

Here is the Official Word from Zulgad's Twitter account:

http://twitter.com/JuddZulgad/status/28719432301

P.S. I always knew my complete infatuation with this game would cause me to behave like a 13 year old girl. And here I am reading people's Twitter accounts. If I start posting info from Live Journal blogs, just do me a favor and run me down in the street.

[Joemailman]

Article on what Childress says he was told:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20101025_childress_says_nfl_admits_blown_calls_in_vikings_loss

[pbmax]

Yep, I missed this one as well. JSO has Chilldress' fuller comment. He is naming the guy he spoke to, so it would seem unlikely he is embellishing.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/105740748.html

[bobblehead]

So let me get this right. If a guy catches the ball in the end zone, gets both feet down, falls down and loses control of the ball it's not a catch. But if a guy flies through the air, gets both hands on the ball and the nose of the football touches the ground before any part of his body does, it is a catch?

can't be any clearer than that can it?

[Bretsky]

Yep, I missed this one as well. JSO has Chilldress' fuller comment. He is naming the guy he spoke to, so it would seem unlikely he is embellishing.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/105740748.html

1. The referee should be suspended for not knowing the rule
2. From now on when we piss and whine about referees and how we always get boned........as all I have to say is Shiancoe

Thanks for botching up the call for the good guys

[pbmax]

Yep, I missed this one as well. JSO has Chilldress' fuller comment. He is naming the guy he spoke to, so it would seem unlikely he is embellishing.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/105740748.html

1. The referee should be suspended for not knowing the rule
2. From now on when we piss and whine about referees and how we always get boned........as all I have to say is Shiancoe

Thanks for botching up the call for the good guys

You can say Shiancoe, but I will say Greg Jennings from last year. The scales eventually balance, but some calls are worse than others.

[Tarlam!]

In any other sport with an egg-shaped ball, it was a catch. He had total control, if he didn't, the ball bounces out.

It was a TD.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I saw that replay on ESPN and his hands were definately in a different position pre and post contact with the ground. An HD widescreen TV is such an awesome thing when watching football.

Totally agree. 40" HD and it sure looked like his hands slid down the ball when the tip hit the ground, which means it moved in his hands, which means trap which means no catch. At first I thought the call was complete shit, but after watching it again, they got it right.