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  • #16
    Winner - McCarthy. Best effort in a month. Had 3rd down working again and introduced a screen pass attack that worked against a team it SHOULD work against. He adjusted the offense 2 weeks early this year. It was not clear they missed Finley in this game until late. Good for him.

    Now if he can just get Rodgers and his receivers reacquainted, they'll be set.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by pbmax
      Now if he can just get Rodgers and his receivers reacquainted, they'll be set.
      Jesus. I had forgotten about that. Talk about looking downright retarded last night.

      Anyway... I would have left Clifton off both lists. Allen didn't present the same challenge he has in the past, and while some of that was decent protection by Clifton, I think Allen wasn't playing well. Clifton's failure to engage him when he was holding the corner allowed Allen to grab that INT and knock down a pass later in the game. Overall, acceptable effort with some flaws.
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      • #18
        It seems Rodgers is the one adjusting. He was unloading quick, even if it wasn't perfect and sometimes it was just bad. . . . But he got rid of it and it worked a lot too. . .


        Now, they just need to get on the same page, like pb said, and they'll be on their way to pretty good.


        We need to get healthy on the DL. The Jets game will be brutal with just the guys we have.
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        • #19
          Skin hinted at something I'd been wondering about. On the intercepted screen, is Clifton supposed to cut the DE so he's not in a position to grab the pass?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Skin hinted at something I'd been wondering about. On the intercepted screen, is Clifton supposed to cut the DE so he's not in a position to grab the pass?
            I think that Clifton was so used to Allen trying to rush the passer with speed on the outside that he likely anticipated him running himself out of the play. That didn't happen.

            Jared Allen has fallen so far so fast this year that it's being fairly widely speculated that he was juicing and stopped using this season.
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            • #21
              I'd chuck it up to a heads up play by Allen/tarded play by A-Rod. Can't blame Clifton for something he shouldn't see coming. I agree with skin that Jared Allen is a bum this year but seeing as how we sent him to the probowl last year its tough not to give Clifton props.

              I also agree with JH that A-Rod was the difference last night. He trusted his protection against a team we historically blow against. He stepped up in the pocket instead of shitting down his leg. Sharpest he's looked in a while despite the stupid ints.
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              • #22
                I'd give Capers a winner tag as well. He didn't just try and blitz the hell out of Favre all night. He sat back and let Favre beat himself (he he). The old addage that Favre will give you one or two shots at a pick have multiplied to 4-5. Great move.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by channtheman
                  I liked the fake field goal call. Everything was perfect except Quarless. I did not like MM calling TO at the end of the half. MM has done this before and it NEVER works out for the Packers. Thank God Chilly was too stupid to take advantage. Both 4th down calls were lame brain typical MM "We are gonna stuff it to them!" even though we are NOT a power running team. I liked the FB dive but it seems teams have caught on. It doesn't work very well anymore. Also, MM whiffed on not challenging Jennings clear first down catch, we went for it on 4th down and failed. At that point, I thought we were going to lose the game, and we nearly did.
                  I like the going for it on fourth down, and I liked the fake field goal. But the calls - the fullback dive - sucked. It hadn't worked before and it was a dumb call on fourth down.

                  But I did like the lack of penalties last night, and the receivers hanging on to the ball. Two positive developments.

                  And I am concerned for next week if Pickett and Jenkins can't play. How bad are their injuries? Does anyone know?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                    I'd give Capers a winner tag as well. He didn't just try and blitz the hell out of Favre all night. He sat back and let Favre beat himself (he he). The old addage that Favre will give you one or two shots at a pick have multiplied to 4-5. Great move.
                    I'm equally sick of the three man rush on 3rd and long as I am of the 15 yard back shoulder comeback routes along the sidelines.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      Originally posted by channtheman
                      I liked the fake field goal call. Everything was perfect except Quarless. I did not like MM calling TO at the end of the half. MM has done this before and it NEVER works out for the Packers. Thank God Chilly was too stupid to take advantage. Both 4th down calls were lame brain typical MM "We are gonna stuff it to them!" even though we are NOT a power running team. I liked the FB dive but it seems teams have caught on. It doesn't work very well anymore. Also, MM whiffed on not challenging Jennings clear first down catch, we went for it on 4th down and failed. At that point, I thought we were going to lose the game, and we nearly did.
                      I like the going for it on fourth down, and I liked the fake field goal. But the calls - the fullback dive - sucked. It hadn't worked before and it was a dumb call on fourth down.

                      But I did like the lack of penalties last night, and the receivers hanging on to the ball. Two positive developments.

                      And I am concerned for next week if Pickett and Jenkins can't play. How bad are their injuries? Does anyone know?
                      Mm said Jenkins will be questionable this week. Don't know about Pickett, but I believe his aggravated his previous ankle injury.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        Originally posted by channtheman
                        I liked the fake field goal call. Everything was perfect except Quarless. I did not like MM calling TO at the end of the half. MM has done this before and it NEVER works out for the Packers. Thank God Chilly was too stupid to take advantage. Both 4th down calls were lame brain typical MM "We are gonna stuff it to them!" even though we are NOT a power running team. I liked the FB dive but it seems teams have caught on. It doesn't work very well anymore. Also, MM whiffed on not challenging Jennings clear first down catch, we went for it on 4th down and failed. At that point, I thought we were going to lose the game, and we nearly did.
                        I like the going for it on fourth down, and I liked the fake field goal. But the calls - the fullback dive - sucked. It hadn't worked before and it was a dumb call on fourth down.

                        But I did like the lack of penalties last night, and the receivers hanging on to the ball. Two positive developments.

                        And I am concerned for next week if Pickett and Jenkins can't play. How bad are their injuries? Does anyone know?
                        great point, what the hell dp we do if those 2 can't go next week. we sure as hell can't just suit up 3 linemen and force those poor bastards to play the whole game agin like they had to do last night. we would have to sign someone which means we have to cut someon

                        but i don't know of any players we can afford to cut at this point

                        we're just a mess because of injuries this year

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ThunderDan
                          Originally posted by Brandon494
                          So Hawk is a winner because he had an INT gift wrapped to him? The guy was missing tackles all night on AP and everytime he did make a tackle he got pushed back atleast 3 yards.
                          OK we get it you dislike Hawk!

                          Hawk had 11 tackles and an INT. That's pretty active and around the ball. If Hawk's INT was gift wrapped than Bishop's right in his belly was also. I didn't think Hawk was a stud this week but he is the leading tackler on the team and basically sat out week 1.

                          Hawk has 60 tackles thru 7 games. He is on a 135+ tackle clip.
                          A.J. just keeps getting lucky I guess, because he is tied for #1 in the NFL among all LBs in INTs from the start of last season until the present. Too bad he never makes any plays.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            Originally posted by channtheman
                            I liked the fake field goal call. Everything was perfect except Quarless. I did not like MM calling TO at the end of the half. MM has done this before and it NEVER works out for the Packers. Thank God Chilly was too stupid to take advantage. Both 4th down calls were lame brain typical MM "We are gonna stuff it to them!" even though we are NOT a power running team. I liked the FB dive but it seems teams have caught on. It doesn't work very well anymore. Also, MM whiffed on not challenging Jennings clear first down catch, we went for it on 4th down and failed. At that point, I thought we were going to lose the game, and we nearly did.
                            I like the going for it on fourth down, and I liked the fake field goal. But the calls - the fullback dive - sucked. It hadn't worked before and it was a dumb call on fourth down.

                            But I did like the lack of penalties last night, and the receivers hanging on to the ball. Two positive developments.

                            And I am concerned for next week if Pickett and Jenkins can't play. How bad are their injuries? Does anyone know?
                            great point, what the hell dp we do if those 2 can't go next week. we sure as hell can't just suit up 3 linemen and force those poor bastards to play the whole game agin like they had to do last night. we would have to sign someone which means we have to cut someon

                            but i don't know of any players we can afford to cut at this point

                            we're just a mess because of injuries this year
                            Well Neal and Poppinga went on the IR today so we have 2 roster spots open at the monent.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by pbmax
                              Winner - McCarthy. Best effort in a month. Had 3rd down working again and introduced a screen pass attack that worked against a team it SHOULD work against. He adjusted the offense 2 weeks early this year. It was not clear they missed Finley in this game until late. Good for him.

                              Now if he can just get Rodgers and his receivers reacquainted, they'll be set.
                              I agree to some extend but calling McCarthy a winner is a stretch; a survivor is more fitting. No red flag on back to back plays, 4th down run plays that sucked ass and lastly "the deer in headlights" play calling when we were up 28-17. I may expect too much?
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                              • #30
                                Re: Week 7 Winners and Losers

                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                Losers:
                                Peprah. Bit hard on some misdirection plays. It'll be nice to have Bigby back although I must admit that Peprah is everything you want in a backup.
                                Just a little note in his defense- The nice pass breakup on Harvin on 3rd and 5 with 1:51 left in the 4th quarter was #26, not #36. The announcers got it wrong. Great play by Peprah.

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