Week 8 other games thread

[mmmdk]

Cardiac Cards were down by 17 to Bucs; now up by 4. WOW!

Derek A. just blew it for Cards - the Favre way.

[denverYooper]

Looked like a hornets nest broke loose on Big Ben there.

[ThunderDan]

Wow stopped the Steelers from 1st and Goal at the 3 inch line.

[Cheesehead Craig]

One thing to bring up about the Vikes DL. I think they were all using PEDs and since the StarCaps situation they stopped thinking the NFL was going to test them more often. Across the board all them have taken a major nosedive in how they have played this season. I mean a major nosedive. Allen isn't even a factor this season and can simply be blocked one on one by an even avg T. The Williams wall doesn't exist any longer and Edwards can't do squat. If I'm wrong then tell me how what was one of the premier defensive lines in football from a year ago goes to where they are today. Wasn't age, 3 of these guys are in their prime.

[denverYooper]

There's Bretsky's favorite Meachem!

[Bossman641]

One thing to bring up about the Vikes DL. I think they were all using PEDs and since the StarCaps situation they stopped thinking the NFL was going to test them more often. Across the board all them have taken a major nosedive in how they have played this season. I mean a major nosedive. Allen isn't even a factor this season and can simply be blocked one on one by an even avg T. The Williams wall doesn't exist any longer and Edwards can't do squat. If I'm wrong then tell me how what was one of the premier defensive lines in football from a year ago goes to where they are today. Wasn't age, 3 of these guys are in their prime.

Allen's decline has been stunning.

I'd like to hear more from a Viking fan. Are there whispers of injuries with him or anything?

[Guiness]

One thing to bring up about the Vikes DL. I think they were all using PEDs and since the StarCaps situation they stopped thinking the NFL was going to test them more often. Across the board all them have taken a major nosedive in how they have played this season. I mean a major nosedive. Allen isn't even a factor this season and can simply be blocked one on one by an even avg T. The Williams wall doesn't exist any longer and Edwards can't do squat. If I'm wrong then tell me how what was one of the premier defensive lines in football from a year ago goes to where they are today. Wasn't age, 3 of these guys are in their prime.

The William's are not in their prime, but I have no idea what happened to Allen. Edwards was never great, rode on the coat tails, and benefited from the lack of attention.

[Lurker64]

One thing to bring up about the Vikes DL. I think they were all using PEDs and since the StarCaps situation they stopped thinking the NFL was going to test them more often. Across the board all them have taken a major nosedive in how they have played this season. I mean a major nosedive. Allen isn't even a factor this season and can simply be blocked one on one by an even avg T. The Williams wall doesn't exist any longer and Edwards can't do squat. If I'm wrong then tell me how what was one of the premier defensive lines in football from a year ago goes to where they are today. Wasn't age, 3 of these guys are in their prime.

Allen's decline has been stunning.

I'd like to hear more from a Viking fan. Are there whispers of injuries with him or anything?

I've heard from some Vikings fans that he dropped 15 lbs in the offseason. It might have led to him being less effective. Clay Matthews is effective at 250, because his game is about athleticism, balance, and tenacity. Jared Allen may just not be able to be effective at 255.

[Joemailman]

7 of Allen's sacks last year came against the Packers when the Packers OL was in disarray. There were stretches last year where he wasn't all that effective. Actually, the Vikings defense has been fairly good this year, and has kept them in games despite an anemic offense.

One difference might be that the Vikings aren't ahead in games as much in the 2nd half. As a result, opposing teams aren't being forced into a must-pass situation as much.

[mmmdk]

Two big AFC fish were hooked this sunday; Packers hands Jets a 9-0 shutout and Saints beats Steelers 20-10. NFC gaining steam.

[Packgator]

One thing to bring up about the Vikes DL. I think they were all using PEDs and since the StarCaps situation they stopped thinking the NFL was going to test them more often. Across the board all them have taken a major nosedive in how they have played this season. I mean a major nosedive. Allen isn't even a factor this season and can simply be blocked one on one by an even avg T. The Williams wall doesn't exist any longer and Edwards can't do squat. If I'm wrong then tell me how what was one of the premier defensive lines in football from a year ago goes to where they are today. Wasn't age, 3 of these guys are in their prime.

Allen's decline has been stunning.

I'd like to hear more from a Viking fan. Are there whispers of injuries with him or anything?

I've heard from some Vikings fans that he dropped 15 lbs in the offseason. It might have led to him being less effective. Clay Matthews is effective at 250, because his game is about athleticism, balance, and tenacity. Jared Allen may just not be able to be effective at 255.

He got married during the off season.

[Joemailman]

And so he could get married, he got rid of the mullet.

[mraynrand]

And so he could get married, he got rid of the mullet.

[mraynrand]

Will Allen do better in the Metrodome Coliseum?

[mmmdk]

Kapinos with the KO for Colts on MNF