ARod underrated

[HarveyWallbangers]

Says other NFL players.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/106523483.html

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and New England Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker are the most underrated players in the National Football League, according to a survey of NFL players.

In a poll of 245 NFL players, Rodgers and Welker each received 5% of the vote. The result of this poll question is published in this week's edition of Sports Illustrated, which is to be on newsstands on Wednesday.

The top five most underrated players in the NFL and the percentage of players voting for them are:

Aaron Rodgers (5%)
Wes Welker (5%)
Andre Johnson, Houston Texans wide receiver (3%)
Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens running back (3%)
Matt Schaub, Houston Texans quarterback (2%)

[pbmax]

I would prefer he be overrated after putting up 30 on each of the last five teams, but I'll take it and the 5-3 record.

[Scott Campbell]

I wish I could put my finger on the difference in him between this year and last year. Were half way through the season now.

[mraynrand]

I wish I could put my finger on the difference in him between this year and last year. Were half way through the season now.

[sheepshead]

Re: ARod underrated

Says other NFL players.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/106523483.html

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers and New England Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker are the most underrated players in the National Football League, according to a survey of NFL players.

In a poll of 245 NFL players, Rodgers and Welker each received 5% of the vote. The result of this poll question is published in this week's edition of Sports Illustrated, which is to be on newsstands on Wednesday.

The top five most underrated players in the NFL and the percentage of players voting for them are:

Aaron Rodgers (5%)
Wes Welker (5%)
Andre Johnson, Houston Texans wide receiver (3%)
Ray Rice, Baltimore Ravens running back (3%)
Matt Schaub, Houston Texans quarterback (2%)

There is no better admiration then from your peers, but what 'rating" are they talking about? All 5 of these guys are top picks in FF. Where else is there a 'rating' that the pollsters pointed to?

[RashanGary]

JS was squirming when they wrote that. It wasn't their words, they had to write it, but they had to be squirming.


Last year, when Favre beat Rodgers, Rodgers being a loser was all the rave. This year, when Rodgers beat Favre, they couldn't even bring themselves to write about it.


There is some strange bias that paper has for Bert and against Rodgers.

[Fosco33]

I wish I could put my finger on the difference in him between this year and last year. Were half way through the season now.

Pack was 4-4 this time last year - and painfully behind MN.

I'd take this position right now less the injuries.

Last year he was making poor decisions to hold onto the ball and getting sacked (killing drives). His accuracy seems to be down - but there's the feel that it's a pass only offense (even if that's not 100% accurate).

[Guiness]

How the holy hell is Andre Johnson, widely regarded as the best receiver in football (I think he was the first WR off the board in Div 3 FF) underated?

[denverYooper]

I wish I could put my finger on the difference in him between this year and last year. Were half way through the season now.

Pack was 4-4 this time last year - and painfully behind MN.

I'd take this position right now less the injuries.

Last year he was making poor decisions to hold onto the ball and getting sacked (killing drives). His accuracy seems to be down - but there's the feel that it's a pass only offense (even if that's not 100% accurate).

Those are good points. I haven't looked at the numbers but it often (though not always, e.g. vs Miami) seems like he's thrown more stuff away and taken more chances this year instead of holding on. Also, drops + "miscommunication" issues seem higher so far. My guess: adjustments due to losing Grant and Finley probably have a lot to do with all of that.

I wish they'd get BJack more involved in the passing game. He's looked good catching the ball out of the backfield.

[Noodle]

ARod is not nearly as accurate as he was last year, and I'm basing that on my eyes, not on his completion percentage. In fact, I don't mind his throwing balls away, which obviously messes with his completion percentage.

Rather, on key throws he's trying to make, he's not doing a good job in many cases of putting the ball where it needs to be. He just misses, with no real excuse for it.

I hate to admit it, but after the Jets game I started wondering if I was witnessing Carson Palmer Part II -- lots of early promise, but just does not develop in to what we thought he would be.

Now, he can correct that by throwing some darts against the Boys. Until he shows me some conistent accuracy, however, I'm going to have my doubts.

[pbmax]

JS was squirming when they wrote that. It wasn't their words, they had to write it, but they had to be squirming.


Last year, when Favre beat Rodgers, Rodgers being a loser was all the rave. This year, when Rodgers beat Favre, they couldn't even bring themselves to write about it.


There is some strange bias that paper has for Bert and against Rodgers.

C'mon, get over this. They (JSO) bashed Bert more than the National Media or the Press Gazette during the Summer of Hate. But Rodgers does not have an MVP or Super Bowl to provide cover when he is less than stellar (concussion or no). So his treatment this year is par for the course. When he wins one, then the boot-licking will commence.

Bert's near MVP performance last year just provided an unflattering point of comparison, though just one more playoff win.

[hoosier]

ARod is not nearly as accurate as he was last year, and I'm basing that on my eyes, not on his completion percentage. In fact, I don't mind his throwing balls away, which obviously messes with his completion percentage.

Rather, on key throws he's trying to make, he's not doing a good job in many cases of putting the ball where it needs to be. He just misses, with no real excuse for it.

I hate to admit it, but after the Jets game I started wondering if I was witnessing Carson Palmer Part II -- lots of early promise, but just does not develop in to what we thought he would be.

Now, he can correct that by throwing some darts against the Boys. Until he shows me some conistent accuracy, however, I'm going to have my doubts.

Agreed about the accuracy. Rodgers seemed to be struggling to get in sync with his receivers even before the concussion. I wonder how much the loss of Grant, and McCarthy's virtual abandonment of the running game, has affected Rodgers's comfort level. During the first half of last year he seemed rattled by having turnstiles at RT and LT. Could it be that he becomes less effective or starts to press when the opposing defense no longer sees the running game as a threat?

[pbmax]

ARod is not nearly as accurate as he was last year, and I'm basing that on my eyes, not on his completion percentage. In fact, I don't mind his throwing balls away, which obviously messes with his completion percentage.

Rather, on key throws he's trying to make, he's not doing a good job in many cases of putting the ball where it needs to be. He just misses, with no real excuse for it.

I hate to admit it, but after the Jets game I started wondering if I was witnessing Carson Palmer Part II -- lots of early promise, but just does not develop in to what we thought he would be.

Now, he can correct that by throwing some darts against the Boys. Until he shows me some conistent accuracy, however, I'm going to have my doubts.

The TV guys said McCarthy had told Rodgers to dial back throwing into coverage and put it where only his receiver could catch it. He wanted less turnovers versus the Jets.

I think he may be suffering from several things; being asked to take more risks with throws, lack of Finley and a concussion. So at a time when he needs to play like mid-season last year, he has made three adjustments he needs to forget (or get healthy from).

[Zool]

I think Drivers sub-par year mixed with Finleys injury has messed with the entire seasons identity of a middle passing attack opening up the outsides. The lack of a run threat also does this.

They run on obvious running downs and pass on obvious passing downs. I've already got most of the formations figured out and I have only watched the games live this year. The O-line has been really good at pass pro but the run blocking is weak still. Might be time to go back to the power gaps and ditch the zone till we have an actual zone back who's decisive. And no I don't think thats Kuhn. That guy see's any daylight, closes his eyes and runs towards it.

[mraynrand]

They run on obvious running downs and pass on obvious passing downs.

Ding! We have a winner. Go against tendency a little, Stubby! Too much FLAILURE!

"when we just got back to the things we do, the basics, we were productive"
"We need to get back to just playing football the right way and not worrying about what the other side’s doing."

And no I don't think thats Kuhn. That guy see's any daylight, closes his eyes and runs towards it.

Yes he does, but very slowly. More like 'Jog to Dusk'