Crosby - an 83% kicker.

[mmmdk]

Even with his miss yesterday, the first of his career under 30 yards, Crosby is 92/111 under 50 yards. That's 82.88%.

I made a fine argument with stats to back it up my view on Crosby in this thread; the above is like closing your eyes to facts/stats by using his stats in a biased way, or rather, not looking at the big Crosby picture.

[pbmax]

Wisconsin State Journal - Tom Oates - says it was a high snap that bungled the first FG attempt.

[Patler]

Wisconsin State Journal - Tom Oates - says it was a high snap that bungled the first FG attempt.

Interesting, because one of the extra point snaps was way off, too. Masthay did a nice job reaching behind him to get that one.

[denverYooper]

Interesting, because one of the extra point snaps was way off, too. Masthay did a nice job reaching behind him to get that one.

They should probably get Rob Davis out there to coach Goode up.

[Patler]

Even with his miss yesterday, the first of his career under 30 yards, Crosby is 92/111 under 50 yards. That's 82.88%.

I made a fine argument with stats to back it up my view on Crosby in this thread; the above is like closing your eyes to facts/stats by using his stats in a biased way, or rather, not looking at the big Crosby picture.

Using stats in a biased way? How? It is simply looking at his performance on all FGs less than 50 yards, which is what SHOULD be the vast majority of his attempts. Even Ryan Longwell commented about Crosby's overall stats being misleading because he tries so darned many ones over 50 yards.

It's a fact that he has hit on about 83% of his kicks under 50 yards. No fudging, no misleading, just the simple unadulterated stats. Have some of his misses come at bad times? Sure, without a doubt. But until the Packers use him in a more reasonable way, and let him have the same holder two years in a row, and maybe a holder who actually has some experience at holding, I think it would be foolish to throw Crosby away.

In some ways the Packers have done everything possible to make Crosby's job as hard as they can.

[mmmdk]

Using stats in a biased way? How? It is simply looking at his performance on all FGs less than 50 yards, which is what SHOULD be the vast majority of his attempts. Even Ryan Longwell commented about Crosby's overall stats being misleading because he tries so darned many ones over 50 yards.

It's a fact that he has hit on about 83% of his kicks under 50 yards. No fudging, no misleading, just the simple unadulterated stats. Have some of his misses come at bad times? Sure, without a doubt. But until the Packers use him in a more reasonable way, and let him have the same holder two years in a row, and maybe a holder who actually has some experience at holding, I think it would be foolish to throw Crosby away.

In some ways the Packers have done everything possible to make Crosby's job as hard as they can.

Ok, too harsh [by me]! Just look at what kicks Crosby makes and which ones he doesn't - that's what it's all about really.

Oh and I agree that Crosby is not to be thrown away but his potential is...just potential; Crosby has done nada to become an elite kicker. Lastly, elite kickers are rare and I'm riding Corsby hard 'cos the leg/talent is there but stats just kills his potential [at the moment]. I wish he'd jump out more.

[denverYooper]

A factor not to be ignored is that Crosby has also had 5 different regular season holders in less than 4 full seasons. Each year he has started the season with a new holder, and he himself is a young kicker learning the NFL. His holders for the most part were novices at the job themselves. Most off seasons he has worked with several holders competing for the punting job.

To some extent, Crosby has suffered because the Packers have been so unsettled and so inexperienced in the punting game. That has spilled over into instability in the kicking game, with inexperienced, first year punters under roster pressure because they are punting poorly also trying to calmly hold for FGs. It has often been said that Matt Flynn has been the best holder available the last three seasons, but the coaching staff doesn't like to use the backup QB. Heck, holding is what kept Doug Pederson in the NFL for so long.

This year, I kept thinking to myself, "didn't Patler make a comment about Crosby's holder possibly affecting his kicking"?

This is the post I was thinking of. A year on, I think it might be fair to say that having a consistent holder has helped.

[RashanGary]

He's up to a career 80.1% Longwell is a career 83.6


Crosby just has to keep rollin. It looks like Masthay will be here for a while. Goode too. He should have everything going his way for the next 5+ years.

[Bretsky]

Crosby was and still is money

[King Friday]

Anyone who thought we should get rid of Crosby was and probably still is an idiot.

[woodbuck27]

Anyone who thought we should get rid of Crosby was and probably still is an idiot.

It seems to me that some we're confused with his performce but he's just learning. A kicker has to know..believe he will make every kick. That takes time and repitition. He must play. A kickers confidence is so important. That's spell'd ... e x p e r i e n c e.

[mmmdk]

Anyone who thought we should get rid of Crosby was and probably still is an idiot.

I agree!

[mmmdk]

Crosby was and still is money

You're finally right, sorta...Crosby needs to nail some game winners to be considered elite.

BTW, define "money"??? HOF? Multiple pro bowls? A pro bowl? Nice dome kicker? What?

Mason Crosby is finally putting a great season together; hope it's a full season incl. playoffs and a SB winning kick.

[Pugger]

Interesting, because one of the extra point snaps was way off, too. Masthay did a nice job reaching behind him to get that one.

I think having Masthay hold for him for a while now has helped Crosby too.

[mmmdk]

I think having Masthay hold for him for a while now has helped Crosby too.

Great observation; sounds very plausible.