CHILLY FIRED - Packers are COACH KILLERS!

[pbmax]

Now the big question after the Phillips and Chilly firings: Why do the owners wait until the season is gone to fire the head coach?

Because results of in season terminations are rarely good enough to matter. Its not a move known for getting a team into the playoffs. And a boost just gets you a worse draft pick.

Owners might want to look at all the available candidates (Gruden, Holmgren, Cowher, etc.) or want to change systems and not have the fired guy's hand picked assistant in charge.

[Bossman641]

From all I’ve been reading, it seems like there will be a lot more in-house hires than ever before. With the threat of a lockout, owners don’t want to be stuck paying big money to Gruden or Cowher if there is no season next year. Also, if the lockout is to drag through the summer, that doesn’t give a new coach much time to get his offense and defense installed.

I hope this move kick starts the Vikings. A win against Chicago would really help us out.

When an assistant gets promoted to HC (Frazier, Garrett), is there any bump in their salary? My guess would be no, but I’m wondering if anyone knows the definitive answer.

[ThunderDan]

From all I’ve been reading, it seems like there will be a lot more in-house hires than ever before. With the threat of a lockout, owners don’t want to be stuck paying big money to Gruden or Cowher if there is no season next year. Also, if the lockout is to drag through the summer, that doesn’t give a new coach much time to get his offense and defense installed.

I hope this move kick starts the Vikings. A win against Chicago would really help us out.

When an assistant gets promoted to HC (Frazier, Garrett), is there any bump in their salary? My guess would be no, but I’m wondering if anyone knows the definitive answer.

I read that article too. But the more I think about it, it seems like a pile of BS. The NFL owners get their TV money no matter what next year. While teams will lose ticket sales (maybe not for GB, I am sure I will have to pay my $450 by next April if there is or isn't a season or lose my season tickets) I am guessing teams will be more profitable without a season. You can cut $115,000,000 in payroll while loosing maybe $90,0000,000 in ticket sales.

[Bossman641]

I read that article too. But the more I think about it, it seems like a pile of BS. The NFL owners get their TV money no matter what next year. While teams will lose ticket sales (maybe not for GB, I am sure I will have to pay my $450 by next April if there is or isn't a season or lose my season tickets) I am guessing teams will be more profitable without a season. You can cut $115,000,000 in payroll while loosing maybe $90,0000,000 in ticket sales.

Well, without even getting into the monetary side of it, it makes a lot of sense to me that you would want to give an in-house assistant a chance first and let him get to work on tweaking the schemes rather than having to overhaul the whole thing without mini-camps and all the other offseason activities.

[vince]

Don't fret for Chilly folks. He has experience in male stripper selection...


...and airline stewardtry...


...and cab driving....


...and fast food...


He's got options and will land on his feet.

[ThunderDan]

Well, without even getting into the monetary side of it, it makes a lot of sense to me that you would want to give an in-house assistant a chance first and let him get to work on tweaking the schemes rather than having to overhaul the whole thing without mini-camps and all the other offseason activities.

Yeah, I understand that. But if you can get a Gruden or a Cowher isn't it worth the risk? I am not sure on this one.

You could almost blow up your team and blame a short year and say we will be good again in 2012. It might take some of the pressure off of performing in the first year. Just throwing that out there!

[Jimx29]

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[Bossman641]

Good point. With how fickle most fans are, I think it would be a hard sell to ask them to wait a year because the coach only had a month to install his system, even if that does make the most sense on the surface. You know that wherever one of those coaches ends up the fans will expect immediate improvement.

[vince]

hmmmm....seems as though posting embedded videos/html has been disabled

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[Lurker64]

You know, if the Packers can somehow get (Atlanta coach) Mike Smith fired next week, we have a shot at getting five coaches in a row fired, what with San Francisco and Detroit coming up after the Atlanta game.

Does anybody have pictures of Mike Smith murdering a hooker that we can release during the game?

[BobDobbs]

The recession in cleats rumbles on. I personally think we should also count losing Kevin Kolb his job, but that's kind of stat padding.

As well as the Falcons resurrection is going, I think you're going to need pictures of a child hooker, a regular old dead hooker is just not going to do it.

Realistically, I think we can get Singletary fired. It's going to be tough, because it's in Lambeau so he's got more excuses. But, the 9ers came in with playoff expectations.

That's why it's going to be so hard to get Jim Schwartz fired, low expectations. It's going to have to be an epic meltdown.

In a dream scenario they both go down and the Bears begin an epic collapse which is completed by an embarrassing destruction at Lambeau that ends Lovie Smith's run. Seriously though, if the bears don't make the playoffs we may have new coaching staffs in every other divisional team next year. That's how you win a division.

[LP]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/22/leslie-frazier-says-hes-ready-to-lead-the-vikings/

The new coach has spoken. Berts gonna start and the turnovers are gonna come down. We're gonna get it going as a football team.


Sounds just like the old coach.

[denverYooper]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...d-the-vikings/

The new coach has spoken. Berts gonna start and the turnovers are gonna come down. We're gonna get it going as a football team.


Sounds just like the old coach.

We'll see how it goes. I hope they win a few and rally enough to take care of the Bears in the dome.

[Packgator]

We'll see how it goes. I hope they win a few and rally enough to take care of the Bears in the dome.

And to keep their draft position from being to early.

[Lurker64]

And to keep their draft position from being to early.

Kind of hoping the Vikings beat the Eagles, Giants, and Bears while losing to the Bills, Lions, and Redskins.