Fox pregame laugher

[RashanGary]

I'd say this. . . . Pay attention to two things. . . .

1. How many replays they show. It can go under the radar, but if you're paying attention, you'll see that Sunday Night replays about 70% of the plays by my estimation. ESPN replays about 10% of the plays. It's a major pet peeve of mine. I never get enough from watching the play once. Seeing it a 2nd time helps me get a feel for some of the little things.

2. For not having any replays, ESPN has a ton of time to talk. So, for having double the talk time, you'd think you'd hear double the interesting information. It's quite the opposite. Collinsworth packs in 3 hours of fucking awesome by making the football the centerpiece and accenting it masterfully and maybe Michaels plays a part in that. ESPN manages to pack in 3 hours of garbage. Notice how incredibly boring the ESPN group is and how incredibly interesting and relevant the NBC crew is.


Getting peoples interest makes money. ESPN is good at making money. That doesn't mean they're good to people like us. It means there good at getting the most volume while not at all catering to the people who would be there no matter what. Smart business, sure, but we have right to hate it and talk about it on here. It fucking sucks and I don't care what their intent is.

[gex]

Collinsworth is by far the best announcer in the nfl right now...if not one of the greatest all-time.
Gruden proves everytime he opens his mouth that everyone here knows he's full of shit.

[Fritz]

I'm with ya, Gex.

[RashanGary]

Gex, Chann, Fritz, Guiness, me. . . .

That's about as scattered of a 5 poster list as you can come up with and we all think Collinsworth is great and Gruden stinks. . . . And it's not just Gruden. It's ESPN. How can they not replay the football plays on the football game? It's literally a bad joke. I keep thinking somebody is going to come out and say we're punked and then start actually covering the game but it never happens.

[MJZiggy]

I get what RG's saying about Gruden having forgotten more than we'll ever know, but that doesn't help if he doesn't pass any of that knowledge off to us. He's repetetive and not to be petty or anything, but his voice itself just annoying.

[RashanGary]

Bad media sells it's soul by pumping lies so they can keep their sources. Good media sells out to provide the best product. ESPN might make more money, but Collinsworth and NBC have all the respect. I guess when these dirt bags at ESPN cash their check they don't really care how they got it.

[MichiganPackerFan]

MNF on ESPN sucks sweaty donkey balls.

ESPN is just a hype machine now and a complete waste of time. NFL network is better in everyway (even when it's NOT good, its still better)

Gruden's commentary as an adult horrify's me about as well as his childhood acting


Not only do I like NBC's presentation much better than ESPN's rubbish, I think NBC has the best camera work and picture quality of all NFL carriers.

And CBS has a knack for making football boring. Fuck them too.

[3irty1]

MNF on ESPN sucks sweaty donkey balls.

ESPN is just a hype machine now and a complete waste of time. NFL network is better in everyway (even when it's NOT good, its still better)

Gruden's commentary as an adult horrify's me about as well as his childhood acting


Not only do I like NBC's presentation much better than ESPN's rubbish, I think NBC has the best camera work and picture quality of all NFL carriers.

And CBS has a knack for making football boring. Fuck them too.

Wow great call. He does look like Chucky.

[Zool]

I thought Gruden was the worst ever...then I watched the first NFL network broadcast and remembered Theismann still has a job. He needs to have his jaw broken. Where's LT?

[Guiness]

Gex, Chann, Fritz, Guiness, me. . . .

That's about as scattered of a 5 poster list as you can come up with and we all think Collinsworth is great and Gruden stinks. . . . And it's not just Gruden. It's ESPN. How can they not replay the football plays on the football game? It's literally a bad joke. I keep thinking somebody is going to come out and say we're punked and then start actually covering the game but it never happens.

I've liked Collingsworth's announcing for some time, and have taken some heat for it

I tuned in to MNF for a bit to see if they're as bad as advertised. Yup.

[channtheman]

I thought Gruden was the worst ever...then I watched the first NFL network broadcast and remembered Theismann still has a job. He needs to have his jaw broken. Where's LT?

You think Theismann alone is bad, watch a game where they pair him with Millen. Those two fuckfaces wouldn't know a football if it hit em in the face. Not only do the rarely discuss the game, when they do they are so off in their analysis of a play, challenge, or penalty it is mind boggling.

[Cheesehead Craig]

How did you guys like Billick during the Packer game? That was one of the few times I've heard him and thought he was good. He totally called one of the Atlanta runs saying it was going to go to the right as Ryan checked into it.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Billick's not bad when he's paying attention to the game.

[RashanGary]

I'm a bit of a Billick fan too, but that might be the Packer homer in me. He's connected to MM and always seems to be pro Packer.

[swede]

How did you guys like Billick during the Packer game? That was one of the few times I've heard him and thought he was good. He totally called one of the Atlanta runs saying it was going to go to the right as Ryan checked into it.

+1 I noted that and I also liked his observation that the game had the intensity of a playoff matchup.