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  • #76
    Randy Wright = 0 Championships
    Dan Marino = 0 Championships

    Randy Wright = Dan Marino

    This type of logic is fun!
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by mmmdk View Post
      I respect your views & it's a good post...but comparing McCarthy to Belichick is not a compliment to him...at all. I'd give Belichick way more credit than compare him to [so far] an average head coach; compare Belichick to the greats - the Lombardi greats - as he truely deserves. Being potentially a Super Bowl coach is just a coach that hasn't done it yet and probably never will - 'cos few do. I just see no aura about McCarthy.
      For what it's worth.....

      W-L comparison of McCarthy and Belichick through their first 75 games as a head coach.

      McCarthy...... 45-30
      Belichick....... 35-40

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
        Randy Wright = 0 Championships
        Dan Marino = 0 Championships

        Randy Wright = Dan Marino

        This type of logic is fun!
        Trent Dilfer = Super Bowl Champion

        Joe Montana = Super Bowl Champion

        Dilfer = Montana

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
          Randy Wright = 0 Championships
          Dan Marino = 0 Championships

          Randy Wright = Dan Marino

          This type of logic is fun!
          That's some funny sh*t right there.
          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Packgator View Post
            For what it's worth.....

            W-L comparison of McCarthy and Belichick through their first 75 games as a head coach.

            McCarthy...... 45-30
            Belichick....... 35-40
            That stat alone means the Packers must keep MM because he shall mystically ascend to the Belichek hoodie.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by sheepshead View Post
              That's some funny sh*t right there.
              Sad but true

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                Doesn't matter how they finish from here, MM will get a pass this season. When you lose almost 1/4 of your opening day roster to IR with only 2/3 of the season gone, including 3 starters on offense, 3 on defense, a couple of your higher draft picks and several of your better ST players, you get a pass if you do even moderately well. He has already accomplished that, and baring a real odd finish should end with a winning record.
                Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                How many passes does MM get?
                Why? Has he gotten other passes? When and for what?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Why? Has he gotten other passes? When and for what?
                  First Pass -- Rookie Head Coach.

                  Second Pass -- Favre Transition.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                    Yeah well I guess that makes me a nit wit. I'm not even close to ready for a coaching change.

                    What made Belichick the guy he is now? He bounced around working under great minds like Parcels but eventually became a defensive guru. What makes a Belichick defense special isn't anything schematic. His x's and o's aren't revolutionary but his methods of preparation and ability to design a game plan made him special. Belichick runs a true multiple front defense and practically invented the concept of switching you scheme every week to best stop the opposition. The versatility is amazing.

                    McCarthy could be the offense version of Belichick. The biggest strength he has always had as a coach is without a doubt his ability to craft an offensive game plan. This was also true of Belichick, his game plan as a defensive coordinator with the Giants against the Bills in superbowl XXV is in the pro football hall of fame. McCarthy is just now entering the part of his career that would coincide with the dominant part of Belichick's. He's off to a good start too. With help from Ted Thompson he has assembled an offense that is just as innovative and vast as Belichick's defense. A true multiples offense that changes as needed to fit personnel and take advantage of anticipated mismatches. This week we strutted into Atlanta and nearly beat them at their own game in their own house. We came out with a ton of spread and managed to move the ball up and down the field with long time consuming drives, without even having a running game. Mike Smith is a pretty great coach in his own right but if not for some poor play on the goal line, the Packers pull out an impressive road win. We lost but the game plan was there. That can be said about nearly all of our losses going back to our loss to the Saints in 2008 where we were throughly beaten, not that there is any shame in being beaten by another brilliant offensive mind like Sean Peyton.

                    People love to question McCarthy's game-time decisions but almost all of them are justified later and its important that he's a very young head coach and is always learning. There are literally thousands of ways to lose a football game but I'm confident that with McCarthy we'll have a great shot at winning any of them. The guy is as good a young coach as you'll find out there IMO.
                    Great post!!!

                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    If they finish 10-6 and miss the playoffs, sure. If they collapse down the stretch and finish 7-9 or 8-8, some tough questions need to be asked.
                    Is it time to talk more about firing the training staff and less about firing the coach who is doing a great job with the skeleton he's got? (seriously though, not sure a training staff change would have changed our IR list in any way)

                    Originally posted by vince View Post
                    The Packers are a young team that, under McCarthy's leadership, is clearly ascending into an NFL powerhouse. When that real trend reverses course, the talk about McCarthy getting a pass or getting fired should start. There's been no sign of that this year. With the injuries, the value of McCarthy's leadership has been reaffirmed.
                    Well stated!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Doesn't matter how they finish from here, MM will get a pass this season. When you lose almost 1/4 of your opening day roster to IR with only 2/3 of the season gone, including 3 starters on offense, 3 on defense, a couple of your higher draft picks and several of your better ST players, you get a pass if you do even moderately well. He has already accomplished that, and baring a real odd finish should end with a winning record.
                      Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                      First Pass -- Rookie Head Coach.

                      Second Pass -- Favre Transition.
                      Did he need a pass for going 8-8 as a rookie coach following a 4-12 season? I doubt it very much.

                      2008 was just weird, right from the end of 2007. Losing in the playoffs like they did, the Favre debacle through out the off-season, then yes, a new QB under more scrutiny than maybe any QB replacement in the NFL for a long, long time, and games lost in the oddest ways. With all that went on, I doubt he needed a "pass" that year either, it was really just his first year of poor team performance.

                      This year won't be poor performance either. In fact, they might end up looking like over-achievers even if they don't make or do well in the playoffs.

                      Sure, its a bottom line game, but even so, when the bottom line disappoints you still have to judge if it was the HC or something else that was the primary factor.

                      I'm OK with MM, but not enthralled with him by any means. I just don't think he is in any jeopardy of losing his job this year, regardless.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                        Should the Packers fail to make the playoffs MM should be terminated. Keep the defensive staff.
                        It was Rodgers' fumble that cost us the game.

                        Is it time to trade him and try with Flynn?

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                        • #87
                          Where is this silly statement inferred.

                          The MM apologists are comical -- too even place MM in the same conversation is like putting Barry Switzer in the same league as Bill Walsh.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                            Where is this silly statement inferred.

                            The MM apologists are comical -- too even place MM in the same conversation is like putting Barry Switzer in the same league as Bill Walsh.
                            Says the guy who stated Dilfer is equal to Montana.
                            All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                              Where is this silly statement inferred.

                              The MM apologists are comical -- too even place MM in the same conversation is like putting Barry Switzer in the same league as Bill Walsh.

                              "apologists"? MM needs to be apologized for?

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                                Says the guy who stated Dilfer is equal to Montana.
                                That would be me applying your logic with Randy Wright and Dan Marino!

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