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    Interesting comment on TJ Lang from Mike McCarthy

    In response to a question about what would happen if Bulaga can't go. . . . .

    “T.J. Lang is the backup. He’s ready. If training camp began today, he’d be pushing for a starting spot.”



    This is a positive development. Since Lang missed a lot of TC and hasn't played very many regular season snaps outside of some garbage time and a snap here or snap there while someone ties their shoe. . . . . We've been left to wonder if how TJ Lang has developed. This isn't the time of season where coaches talk about how the backups are practicing very often so here's our first glimpse into the development of TJ Lang.

    With Bulaga looking like such a natural (21 years old, coming of serious illness where he lost 20 lbs just one year ago), you'd have to think he's a safe bet to play NFL LT. Projecting from college is one thing. He's looked damn good in the NFL. It seems like an easier projection to flip sides, especially since his natural side and more experienced side is the left side.

    And now TJ Lang is doing really well in practice to the point that McCarthy just flat out says, "TJ's ready" and "If it were TC, he'd be pushing for a starting spot". It looks like we might have our RT on the roster too.

    Now, that leaves the backup tackle spot very thin if Clif and Tausch are both done next year and our LG spot could be uprgraded, but it doesn't look like the OL is any worse going forward as it is now and that wasn't always the case. Some anxiety has been mounting. The play of Bulgaga and the comments of McCarthy on Lang are easing that anxiety. Could we transition as seamlessly from OT to OT as we did from CB to CB with harris/tramon? It looks like maybe we will.
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  • #2
    I still think he might make a better OG. I'd like to see.

    Bulaga-Lang-Wells-Sitton-DRAFTEE

    If Spitz ever gets back to form, then I'd be okay with

    Bulaga-Spitz-Wells-Sitton-Lang

    Not sure what has happened to Spitz.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
      In response to a question about what would happen if Bulaga can't go. . . . .

      “T.J. Lang is the backup. He’s ready. If training camp began today, he’d be pushing for a starting spot.”



      This is a positive development. Since Lang missed a lot of TC and hasn't played very many regular season snaps outside of some garbage time and a snap here or snap there while someone ties their shoe. . . . . We've been left to wonder if how TJ Lang has developed. This isn't the time of season where coaches talk about how the backups are practicing very often so here's our first glimpse into the development of TJ Lang.

      With Bulaga looking like such a natural (21 years old, coming of serious illness where he lost 20 lbs just one year ago), you'd have to think he's a safe bet to play NFL LT. Projecting from college is one thing. He's looked damn good in the NFL. It seems like an easier projection to flip sides, especially since his natural side and more experienced side is the left side.

      And now TJ Lang is doing really well in practice to the point that McCarthy just flat out says, "TJ's ready" and "If it were TC, he'd be pushing for a starting spot". It looks like we might have our RT on the roster too.
      That is interesting.

      They have often commented about their internal debates as to if Lang is a better guard or tackle, and Bulaga seems capable at perhaps three spots. Could lead to some years of changes before they all settle into their final positions. If they have used extra heavy duty tape to put Clifton together this year, and he lasts through next year, you could maybe see Clifton-Bulaga on the left and Sitton-Lang on the right; or even Clifton-Lang and Sitton-Bulaga. At any rate, hopefully they will have successfully rebuilt 3/5ths of the O-line with Bulaga, Sitton and Lang, wherever they play.

      I wonder how Spitz is? I read one article recently that said he needs another off-season in the weight room, that the time off with his back surgery had noticeably decreased is power, but that he seemed completely healed now. Maybe next year he might factor in at LG, or push Wells again.

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      • #4
        My fear is that with a back injury that required surgery, Spitz may heal but might not ever be as strong or as reliable. But without knowing the injury, its hard to say. But I have read the same reports Patler has, that he has lost power due to the back injury/surgery.

        I suspect the Packers will be drafting one more relatively high tackle prospect unless they are convinced the young guy (McDonald/Newhouse?) could start. And not a college tackle that projects to Guard. Bulaga has had some trouble with pass rushers, so he is not a slam dunk on the left.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          Bulaga has had some trouble with pass rushers, so he is not a slam dunk on the left.
          Might be ... but at guard!

          McDonald and Newhouse will be interesting to watch. They thought enough of both to tie up roster spots for them and not risking trying to get them through to the practice squad.

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          • #6
            None of this would seem to bode well for the prospects of Colledge securing a long-term deal this offseason. I too would like to see Lang move inside to LG, but it would seem that there are some different options, any number of which show some promise, particularly with the addition of another o-line prospect in the draft.

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            • #7
              with the Packers that is. Joe I need editing rights...

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              • #8
                MM might be thinking of moving Bulaga to LG. I thought he was outplaying Colledge there in the first two preseason games before he got hurt.

                I would be pretty pleased if the starting OL next year (or even this this year) is Clifton/Bulaga/Wells/Sitton/Lang.
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                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
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                • #9
                  Nice pick JH.

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                  • #10
                    Put me on record for liking Lang at Tackle. I like his feet and I like his balance. He looks natural in space. McCarthy likes him at guard. Philbin likes him at tackle. As much as I don't like Philbin, his OL experience far outweighs McCarthy's. Just using those two opinions, I'd lean toward Philbins so that makes me lean tackle too.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                      Put me on record for liking Lang at Tackle. I like his feet and I like his balance. He looks natural in space. McCarthy likes him at guard. Philbin likes him at tackle. As much as I don't like Philbin, his OL experience far outweighs McCarthy's. Just using those two opinions, I'd lean toward Philbins so that makes me lean tackle too.
                      Who liked Barbre at Tackle? Figure that out and we know who not to listen to.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #12
                        Ted Thompson picked Barbre and kept him around for three years. Maybe he should be fired since nobody should listen to him.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                          Ted Thompson picked Barbre and kept him around for three years. Maybe he should be fired since nobody should listen to him.
                          Bout time you figure it out.

                          I have been unhappy with the OL for 3 seasons. This is the first season it's been somewhat respectable. We could do with some better run blocking, but overall it's better.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            My fear is that with a back injury that required surgery, Spitz may heal but might not ever be as strong or as reliable. But without knowing the injury, its hard to say. But I have read the same reports Patler has, that he has lost power due to the back injury/surgery.

                            I suspect the Packers will be drafting one more relatively high tackle prospect unless they are convinced the young guy (McDonald/Newhouse?) could start. And not a college tackle that projects to Guard. Bulaga has had some trouble with pass rushers, so he is not a slam dunk on the left.
                            His biggest issue seems to be guys with a good inside move. Having relied on pushing guys who go left wide (playing LT) his whole life this may be 1) correctable in time, or 2) a non factor if he ends up at LT. I played LG and had a lot of trouble trying to play RT....I also had nowhere near Bulaga type talent though.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              Who liked Barbre at Tackle? Figure that out and we know who not to listen to.
                              I like Babre at guard....in hindsight, anyone who like Babre anywhere is suspect.....
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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