4th and 1

[retailguy]

+1. Good QB coach. Bad HC.

Good stat. Clearly MM is not the coach to lead the Packers to the Super Bowl. MM's strength is mentoring qbs not calling plays in critical times.

McCarthy is not going anywhere. We got what we got.

The best hope we have is that he is forced to give up playcalling duties, but that's not likely either..

[rbaloha1]

McCarthy is not going anywhere. We got what we got.

The best hope we have is that he is forced to give up playcalling duties, but that's not likely either..

What happens if the Packers end-up 8-8?

[MJZiggy]

I liked the play...the ball is one foot shorter and we win the game.

I loved the play on third down. On fourth, a nice dumpoff to get a couple yards and we're still in the game.

[retailguy]

What happens if the Packers end-up 8-8?

Nothing. Maybe we get a few new assistants or McCarthy gives playcalling to someone else, but there has been too many injuries for a change to be made, even if they lose out non-competitively.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

THe play I hated the most was the run on 2nd and 1. I mean how many failed attempts do you need before you should understand that we can't run the ball. We were moving the ball very well in the air that drive and that play just messed everything up. Should have just kept passing.

[retailguy]

THe play I hated the most was the run on 2nd and 1. I mean how many failed attempts do you need before you should understand that we can't run the ball. We were moving the ball very well in the air that drive and that play just messed everything up. Should have just kept passing.

While we didn't run well today, we can run the ball. McCarthy stubbornly has moved from the run game in a few instances where it worked. I personally believe he is under utilizing Kuhn. I was also disappointed that Starks only got six carries.

But you cannot ignore the impact that Suh had on the game today. It was impossible to run inside with the penetration he got on Wells. It was pathetic. Wells worst game in over a year. The short yardage play book was unusable today.

[channtheman]

That kind of play is just too damn common with MM. It's been infuriating for the whole season and I think we're just more numb to it now.

Pretty much. All you hear is "we want to be in 3rd and short" yet all we get is the big bomb that you could throw an ANY down. Just hope we can win our last 2 games and get some luck with the other potential playoff teams in the NFC. We will lose to NE.

[Noodle]

I loved the play on third down. On fourth, a nice dumpoff to get a couple yards and we're still in the game.

This is wisdom.

So Zigs, what are you doing next week? Hows about being MM's play-calling assistant?

[OS PA]

I loved the play on third down. On fourth, a nice dumpoff to get a couple yards and we're still in the game.

Exactly. I don't understand the decision at all. McCarthy said that on a 4th and 1 he called a played that had a decent chance at resulting in a big play. I wonder what the stats sheet says the odds are on scoring a touchdown from 30 yards out on 4th and 1. Would you rather have a decent shot at scoring on 4th and 1 or have 4 more shots at scoring if you pick up the first down? Just dumb.

[Patler]

One would think that somewhere in the 500 page game plan the Packers had for the Lions there was a high percentage play that would net the yard that was needed.

[wpony]

I was so mad i have not talked to anyone or anything since MM called that play . I would not even had been for it had arod still been on the field.all we need was one yard to keep the chains moving.TT should be so angry right now at MM at this weeks meeting he threw the whole seas om away in that one play .
our only chance after arod went down was to knock Stanton silly the rest of the game but MM just is to vanilla to do anything

[LEWCWA]

I understand the frustration watching that ball fall incomplete, but i loved the call. I'm sure there were short routes on the play to pick up the yard, but Jennings was one on one and wide open. Flynn didn't do his job. If he puts the ball in the right place touchdown Packers steal one. He made the right read, just didn't execute.

[Scott Campbell]

I liked the play...the ball is one foot shorter and we win the game.

The really bizarre part of that play call was that they had just used a timeout. So if complete, they would have scored immediately and left a ton of time on the clock for Detroit.

[Scott Campbell]

I understand the frustration watching that ball fall incomplete, but i loved the call. I'm sure there were short routes on the play to pick up the yard, but Jennings was one on one and wide open. Flynn didn't do his job. If he puts the ball in the right place touchdown Packers steal one. He made the right read, just didn't execute.

That's a low percentage 4th and 1 throw no matter who is throwing it.

[Pugger]

If the play works MM is a genius. The reason we lost the game is turnovers. We turned the ball over 3 times when we were in a position to score. You can't do that against any team in this league and expect to win. End of story.