Great calls, poor execution

[Scott Campbell]

Once again, MM pulls rabbits out of a hate, and comes up with great calls in crucial situations. He crosses up the defense on 3rd or 4th and short, calls deep passes, has guys open, and they either drop the ball (Jennings) or the QB misses them (Rodgers to Jones, Flynn to Jennings).

Can't blame MM. After all, he isn't the one throwing it or catching it. Poor execution by the players.

My issue isn't the play calling, but rather the clock management. They called a timeout shortly before that end zone throw. If you're going to try and get it all at once I'd rather see them keep their TO's and run more clock off.

[Patler]

My issue isn't the play calling, but rather the clock management. They called a timeout shortly before that end zone throw. If you're going to try and get it all at once I'd rather see them keep their TO's and run more clock off.

It would have been scary seeing them kickoff again, wouldn't it?

[MichiganPackerFan]

Once again, MM pulls rabbits out of a hate, and comes up with great calls in crucial situations. He crosses up the defense on 3rd or 4th and short, calls deep passes, has guys open, and they either drop the ball (Jennings) or the QB misses them (Rodgers to Jones, Flynn to Jennings).

Can't blame MM. After all, he isn't the one throwing it or catching it. Poor execution by the players.

MM explicitly said the opposite in his PC: said he they played shitty and it starts with him. THat's one thing I've always liked about MM: accountability.

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Jennings had a step on the 4th down pass, just an overthrown ball.

THat ball was not overthrown, it was placed perfectly in his hands. No excuse for not bringing that one in. Jennings should have had that TD cleanly too (although I'm not sure he did NOT : Should have challenged.)

[Scott Campbell]

It would have been scary seeing them kickoff again, wouldn't it?

Based on previous game experiences yes. But not too bad with the way our D played yesterday. Regardless of how it turned out, we don' t need to be preserving time for the other team's offense.

In general I find clock management criticism to be a lot more fair than play calling criticism.

[denverYooper]

MM explicitly said the opposite in his PC: said he they played shitty and it starts with him. THat's one thing I've always liked about MM: accountability.



THat ball was not overthrown, it was placed perfectly in his hands. No excuse for not bringing that one in. Jennings should have had that TD cleanly too (although I'm not sure he did NOT : Should have challenged.)

I think CC was referring to the last pass? I agree that he should have caught his previous TD opportunity when they settled for the FG. It floated a little but was a catchable ball. He also bonked a slant in the redzone that was not a great pass but was catchable. Those 2 passes weren't great but he had opportunities to make plays on a day that they needed their #1 receiver to do so.

[swede]

Don Hutson makes that catch, goddammit!

[Patler]

Don Hutson makes that catch, goddammit!

...or Carroll Dale from Bart Starr. Starr did that a lot on 3rd and short, with defenses looking for Taylor to carry it.

[Smidgeon]

That is the point I raised in another thread. They don't seem to have any, but I'm not sure that that isn't by design. MM seems to cherish variety over execution (no matter what he says). He has no bread and butter plays generally, regardless of the down and distance. I don't think he wants to have plays that he pounds and pounds on until the other team stops them.

Grant has been gone the entire season, Finley for a half-season worth of games. MM hasn't yet figured out what the identity of the team is without them. Every week it seems to be something different.

For a while there, I thought the bread and butter play was deep sidelines passes to Jones and Jennings. Those seemed to be working well since Finley went out...until today.

[Patler]

For a while there, I thought the bread and butter play was deep sidelines passes to Jones and Jennings. Those seemed to be working well since Finley went out...until today.

Agreed. But for the last few weeks they often seem to misfire on the first one, then hit several after that. He overthrew Jones in an early series yesterday, then they never seemed to comeback to it until Flynn threw one, later in the game.

[MJZiggy]

...or Carroll Dale from Bart Starr. Starr did that a lot on 3rd and short, with defenses looking for Taylor to carry it.

No one was looking for anyone to carry it yesterday.

[pbmax]

Don Hutson makes that catch, goddammit!

Of course, because he was wearing on onion on his belt, which was the style at the time ...

[Bossman641]

To be fair, the best way to assess the percentages would be to compare the percentage of the Packers getting a TD in both situations, not just whether or not they convert the 4th down. What's their percentage chance of converting a 4th and 1? 50%? Next, what is there percentage chance of scoring a TD with a first down on the 30 yard line with under 2 minutes and 2 timeouts , your back QB and having only scored 3 points the entire game? A generous 50%? IDK about the accuracy of those percentages, but they would comes out to only 25% chance. The odds of completing a 30 yard pass with the Jennings match-up? I'd say it is probably close to 25%.

This is more along my line of thinking. I think Flynn had a better chance of making that throw then we did of converting and scoring a TD.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Of course, because he was wearing on onion on his belt, which was the style at the time ...

Was that back in nineteen tickety two?

[Pugger]

I think CC was referring to the last pass? I agree that he should have caught his previous TD opportunity when they settled for the FG. It floated a little but was a catchable ball. He also bonked a slant in the redzone that was not a great pass but was catchable. Those 2 passes weren't great but he had opportunities to make plays on a day that they needed their #1 receiver to do so.

I thought CC was referring to the pass from AR in the first quarter that bounced off Jennings and to the Lion defender...?