So what's MM's problem?

[Bretsky]

Seriously, why in the heck can't we find a quality special teams coach from a staff that was fired; staffs are fired every year. We fire our special teams coach and hire his dang assistant with limited credentials.

It's been said plenty around here but MM is loyal to a fault.

And was Tom Clements on staff (I consider him overqualifed coach for his position) when Philbin was hired as the OC.

Philbin seemed like a very valuable OL coach and one might argue hiring him to be OC and Campen at OL has been less than stellar

JH has brought up some very solid points regarding him as the OC; I was never fond of that hire with other more experienced candidates out there.

In retrospect the dude was valuable as a OL coach and for those who argue Campen is not good there............well.........do that Math

[th87]

The lack of blowouts recently is a very good sign of a good team ready to take the next step. I think Waldo did an analysis on it somewhere. As cliche as it is, the Packers do need to learn to finish. Mental mistakes down the stretch need to be eliminated. Fumbles, penalties, blown ST coverages seem to come at the worst times. That's just a reflection of focus and maturity. And MM does need to dance with the girl that got him the 4th quarter lead. That's what Belichick does.

Of course, fix the o line, and this isn't as much of an issue.

[SnakeLH2006]

No. Heck, had Jennings caught that pass in the end zone we'd all be marveling about Flynn saving the day.

Flynn couldn't save the day if Jesus said, "Hey, it's in the scriptures, bro."

Trust in Flynn and we all burn in eternal fire.

[MJZiggy]

Flynn couldn't save the day if Jesus said, "Hey, it's in the scriptures, bro."

Trust in Flynn and we all burn in eternal fire.

Dude for godssakes, Flynn is just a kid who's played in a grand total of half a game. Let's not base his whole future on 30 snaps. Remember what AR's first 30 snaps looked like?

[mmmdk]

Tony.......a bit crude on the response to Jimmy H as our coach; I'd still puke if the Pack hired him but he might be a good NFL coach someday.
I continue to think MM is an average NFL coach. It would be a fun thread...ranking the coaches from 1-32....bring out lots of arguments

My guess is I'd put MM somewhere between 14-20

Wuhuu - I agree totally with B; between 14-20 is where McCarthy should be ranked. About Jimmy Harbaugh, he'd be a gamble to hire...much like McCarthy was a gamble to hire as a head coach - if your goal is to win a super bowl.

Teachers don't win super bowls.

[MJZiggy]

Teachers don't win super bowls.

You sure about that? I've heard of Belichick referred to as a great teacher...

[Pugger]

Flynn couldn't save the day if Jesus said, "Hey, it's in the scriptures, bro."

Trust in Flynn and we all burn in eternal fire.

If Jennings catches that TD we're up 10-7. Last I checked that would be enough to win.

[rbaloha1]

If Jennings catches that TD we're up 10-7. Last I checked that would be enough to win.

How is that simple? Playcalling changes and possibly the packers still lose. At the end of the day, no excuses losing to a bad team.

[bobblehead]

How is that simple? Playcalling changes and possibly the packers still lose. At the end of the day, no excuses losing to a bad team.

Not true, in a 10 point game MM still does not think calling a running play is a viable option. Playcalling doesn't change a bit.

[rbaloha1]

Not true, in a 10 point game MM still does not think calling a running play is a viable option. Playcalling doesn't change a bit.

What about Lions playcalling? Its impossible to project the outcome of the game with Jennings td catch.

Quoting Bill Parcells, "You are what your record says."

[denverYooper]

You sure about that? I've heard of Belichick referred to as a great teacher...

+50

[rbaloha1]

+50

Another so-called great teacher was Bill Walsh.

[MJZiggy]

Another so-called great teacher was Bill Walsh.

Thanks for making the point that M3 should be kept because he's a good teacher.

[Bretsky]

Thanks for making the point that M3 should be kept because he's a good teacher.

Maybe I missed this but as a head coach how is MM a great teacher ? He seems to be a great developer of QB's but not sure about the rest.
I think he's average which is not ground to get rid of the guy

But if he doesn't make some moves with his staff I'll think less than him

[rbaloha1]

Thanks for making the point that M3 should be kept because he's a good teacher.

He is a great teacher of qbs -- thats it. Does not have the teaching depth of Walsh or Belicheck which ultimately leads to super bowls.