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  • #16
    Originally posted by gbgary View Post
    if the doctors clear him...of course he should play.
    That's what will happen, I'm sure. If he's cleared to play he will. But the larger question relates to:
    a.) there is growing concern over concussions and the research that increasingly indicates them being a much larger problem than what they were once believed to be.
    b.) Rodgers takes a fair amount of beating because of spotty line play and, unfortunately, his ability to make plays with his feet. Cutler has the same problem in Chicago.
    c.) this is Rodgers's 2nd concussion this year and because of a and b there is now pretty legitimate concern for his long-term health.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
      When you take Aaron Rodgers off this team I think this team really becomes a sum of its parts. They look like exactly like you would expect a bunch of mid-round draft picks to look. I read an article last week that compared the 49ers roster to that of the Packers. The 49ers offense is loaded with very high draft picks and a ton of OL talent but have pedestrian QBs that make their offense average.
      Rodgers is a difference maker, no doubt. Flynn would do ok running this offense, especially with some more reps, and I think they'd still be in better shape QB-wise than the niners. But Rodgers elevates that offense. He makes plays that will win games.
      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        The second injury is much worse than the first, if I can believe what I have read about concussions. The first produces damage and the physical recovery process takes weeks. The second injury can re-damage the same tissue (which is more vulnerable now) and delay healing for months. And the healing process continues long after noticeable symptoms have subsided.
        this is spot on from what i know of the damn things. and as some of you already know, i've had my fair share of these stupid things.

        when you get the first one the brain swells and that causes some of the fluid that cushions the brain to thin out, leaving the brain very susceptible to a second more severe blow to the head that results in more permanent damage.

        i think the current process of clearing players to return to the field is an absolute joke. i have never had one that lasted less then a week. you feel like shit for at least 2 weeks on average. yet these trainers manage to get the guys back out there in a few days. I call BS

        a second concussion so soon after the first tells me he wasn't fully healed in the first place. i think he should be shut down for the year.

        my situation was very similar. i got hit in the back of the head and knocked out, less then two weeks later i got hit hard in the forehead and knocked stupid again, while still suffering from the first one. i felt like i had a massive hangover for almost a half year do to the second blow. and after that it became very easy to get new ones

        i would be scarred of a similar situation with a-rod

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        • #19
          If it is as bad as it seems then shut him down. In the time off he can practice his slide.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #20
            There have been some real interesting articles about the cumulative effects of concussions, even when second and later ones are years after what was thought to be the first one. Of course studying brains of dead athletes is very unreliable because of the lack of good documentation on the injuries during their careers 20-40 years ago.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by red View Post
              this is spot on from what i know of the damn things. and as some of you already know, i've had my fair share of these stupid things.

              when you get the first one the brain swells and that causes some of the fluid that cushions the brain to thin out, leaving the brain very susceptible to a second more severe blow to the head that results in more permanent damage.

              i think the current process of clearing players to return to the field is an absolute joke. i have never had one that lasted less then a week. you feel like shit for at least 2 weeks on average. yet these trainers manage to get the guys back out there in a few days. I call BS

              a second concussion so soon after the first tells me he wasn't fully healed in the first place. i think he should be shut down for the year.

              my situation was very similar. i got hit in the back of the head and knocked out, less then two weeks later i got hit hard in the forehead and knocked stupid again, while still suffering from the first one. i felt like i had a massive hangover for almost a half year do to the second blow. and after that it became very easy to get new ones

              i would be scarred of a similar situation with a-rod
              Luckily I've never had a concussion. But a close friend of mine played rugby in college. For some reason, he was concussion-prone. His last one, the one that forced his friends to keep him from going back to rugby ended up causing concussion-like symptoms that lasted well over eight months. Of course, that was his eighth concussion in the space of a couple years... Here's hoping AR doesn't suffer from back-to-back concussions.
              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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              • #22
                There are times when you throw caution to the wind and go for it and there are times you slide. Rodgers needs to figure it out. Every time you decide to go headfirst you give someone on the D a free shot...and most guys will take it instead of just touching you down.
                C.H.U.D.

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                • #23
                  I think you have to look back at people like Steve Young (Officially 7 concussions, but probably more). It's gonna come down to the doctors and how severe the concussion was. I hate to say it, but he needs to sit out, which initially means a loss.
                  If you can accept losing, you can't win. - Vince Lombardi

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by red View Post
                    this is spot on from what i know of the damn things. and as some of you already know, i've had my fair share of these stupid things.

                    when you get the first one the brain swells and that causes some of the fluid that cushions the brain to thin out, leaving the brain very susceptible to a second more severe blow to the head that results in more permanent damage.

                    i think the current process of clearing players to return to the field is an absolute joke. i have never had one that lasted less then a week. you feel like shit for at least 2 weeks on average. yet these trainers manage to get the guys back out there in a few days. I call BS

                    a second concussion so soon after the first tells me he wasn't fully healed in the first place. i think he should be shut down for the year.

                    my situation was very similar. i got hit in the back of the head and knocked out, less then two weeks later i got hit hard in the forehead and knocked stupid again, while still suffering from the first one. i felt like i had a massive hangover for almost a half year do to the second blow. and after that it became very easy to get new ones

                    i would be scarred of a similar situation with a-rod
                    Sorry to hear you went throught this red, but that is exactly as I have always understood concussions, and if laymen like us can gleem that from personal experience and reading, then the NFL should be ashamed. I personally thought the pack should have sat Rodgers against the Dolphins (and his play was spotty to boot), and I am damn sure he should sit against the pats. Beyond his health it is the only game we can afford to lose still (and are likely to either way). Why let him take hits in a game we probably won't win anyway, and if it compromises his season and/or career it really becomes a no brainer.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #25
                      I thought the premise might be Hoody is going to beat Rodgers or Flynn so might as well be cautious with Rodgers.....but health wise, how can you go with anythink other than what the league guidelines have in place ?
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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