Playoffs?! Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs?

[Joemailman]

The funny thing is, a win tonight basically means nothing since we still have to beat the Giants no matter what next week. Makes it pretty tempting to rest starters, especially if the game starts to get out of hand.

I guess the way it could help is if we end up losing to the bears week 17.

It might mean nothing in terms of the wild card. However, if the Packers win tonight, improbable as that is, they still have a legitimate chance to win the division.

[denverYooper]

What a difference a few hours make! Until 4:30 EST most Packer fans have stuck a fork the Pack thinking the season was toast. Today was a good day to be a Packer fan no matter what happens tonight.

Boats should not be built from this year's Packers. Several forks have been stuck in them this year. This season is playing out like a drunken sailor simulation.

[steve823]

If the Bears end up winning the division and we get Wild Card chances are we are playing the Bears in the first round of the playoffs.

Of course they have a long way to go, but man would that be great.

[Airin' Rodgers]

A few scenarios....

Packers can win division by:

1. Bears lose to Vikings. Packers beat Giants. Bears beat Jets/Bears lose to Jets. Packers beat bears
2. Bears lose out. Packers lose to NY but beat Chicago

Packers can win WC by:

1. Packers win remaining 2
2. Packers beat Giants. Lose to Bears. Giants lose to Redskins Week 17. Bucs lose 1 of remaining 2.

So, bottom line is the Packers can be 9-7 and make the playoffs in a few different ways. But if they win the last 2, they are in.

The dilemma for me is, do we cheer for Minnesota to beat the Bears, which gives us a possibility of the division? Or do we cheer for the bears, which will likely mean they rest their starters in week 17, and give us a win assuming we beat New York?

[denverYooper]

Skol Vikings.

[gbgary]

do we want to make the playoffs and have mm hang around another year holding the team back? how many more fullback dives for not and/or deep balls on 3rd and two do we want to see?

[rbaloha1]

do we want to make the playoffs and have mm hang around another year holding the team back? how many more fullback dives for not and/or deep balls on 3rd and two do we want to see?

Double edge sword. MM's team has zero 4th quarter victories this season. NBC also posted a graphic which showed since 2008 the Packers have the 3rd worst record in close games.

How can MM lead a team to the playoffs with the inability to win close games? IMO an 8-8 record is not the end of the world if MM is let go. MM still walks away with millions like Sherman.

[denverYooper]

do we want to make the playoffs and have mm hang around another year holding the team back? how many more fullback dives for not and/or deep balls on 3rd and two do we want to see?

MM will remain whether they make the playoffs or not. But if they do make the playoffs, does he upgrade ST/OL coaching in the offseason? I think those areas have held the team back and could use a coaching change regardless of whether they get in or not.

[Bretsky]

agree; I think MM is hear next year regardless. He's TT' choice and has a few years I think left on his extension

[Bossman641]

No way does MM get let go with the injuries this team has sustained, and he shouldn't be let go anyways.

[Fosco33]

Do you think the Bears will let up at all against the Pack? Think about it - they've locked the division and don't have much upside to playing all out in week 17.

In fact - if the Pack gets #6 and Bears are #3 - we'd go back-back. Why show the playbook in back-back weeks?

I like the Packers to beat the Bears - and then it'll be a HUGE game in Chicago in early January. Love to give them a 'one/done' year.

[Bossman641]

Do you think the Bears will let up at all against the Pack? Think about it - they've locked the division and don't have much upside to playing all out in week 17.

In fact - if the Pack gets #6 and Bears are #3 - we'd go back-back. Why show the playbook in back-back weeks?

I like the Packers to beat the Bears - and then it'll be a HUGE game in Chicago in early January. Love to give them a 'one/done' year.

Personally I don't think the Bears would let up at all. Just the general mindset I get from Lovie.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Do you think the Bears will let up at all against the Pack? Think about it - they've locked the division and don't have much upside to playing all out in week 17.

In fact - if the Pack gets #6 and Bears are #3 - we'd go back-back. Why show the playbook in back-back weeks?

I like the Packers to beat the Bears - and then it'll be a HUGE game in Chicago in early January. Love to give them a 'one/done' year.

Well since the Bears won today. Next week we need to win, have the Bears win, and the Eagles lose. That way the Bears will clinch a first round bye. The last week they would be playing to knock us out of the playoffs. I see them going all out either way though. F the Bears and F this season.

[Bossman641]

Well since the Bears won today. Next week we need to win, have the Bears win, and the Eagles lose. That way the Bears will clinch a first round bye. The last week they would be playing to knock us out of the playoffs. I see them going all out either way though. F the Bears and F this season.

F the Bears getting a first round bye. Let's play them back to back weeks at Lambeau and then Soldier. They don't scare me at all.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

F the Bears getting a first round bye. Let's play them back to back weeks at Lambeau and then Soldier. They don't scare me at all.

Yep but we need Rodgers, Jenkins, and Collins back to win. The Gaints also stand in front of us. They are going to come ready to play.