Good ESPN read on the Packers

[rbaloha1]

Is MM a football genius like Belichek?

[Pugger]

To me Capers is a magician if you think about it. He has a defense with several starters on IR and with the backups' backups and street FAs filling in he has molded our D into the top ranked D as far as scoring against and the #3 against the pass.

[Bretsky]

Is MM a football genius like Belichek?

NO

[MJZiggy]

NO

The Cleveland Browns may care to disagree with you. M3 is in his fourth year, the same year that Belichick finished with a 5-11 record and left the Browns. What about that 5-11 season leads you to believe that the Cheat has more genius in him than M3?

[mmmdk]

The Cleveland Browns may care to disagree with you. M3 is in his fourth year, the same year that Belichick finished with a 5-11 record and left the Browns. What about that 5-11 season leads you to believe that the Cheat has more genius in him than M3?

I see your point but that logic doesn't here. The Browns were in shambles (moving) and in Belichicks 5 seasons in Cleveland; he actually managed a 36-44 regular season record and shockingly had a 1-1 record in the playoffs. It's the frecking Browns were talking about; after Beli they went 2-14 & 3-13 years later...the team had no talent before or after.

Also, Ravens went 4-12 in 1996, 6-9-1 in 1997, 6-10 in 1998 and finally went .500 in 1999 with 8-8 record. Ravens then won SB in 2000 with one of best defenses ever.

[MJZiggy]

I see your point but that logic doesn't here. The Browns were in shambles (moving) and in Belichicks 5 seasons in Cleveland; he actually managed a 36-44 regular season record and shockingly had a 1-1 record in the playoffs. It's the frecking Browns were talking about; after Beli they went 2-14 & 3-13 years later...the team had no talent before or after.

Also, Ravens went 4-12 in 1996, 6-9-1 in 1997, 6-10 in 1998 and finally went .500 in 1999 with 8-8 record. Ravens then won SB in 2000 with one of best defenses ever.

He coached there BEFORE the move and it wasn't until the end of the season that the move was even mentioned. Don't buy your logic at ALL. He left when the move was announced. The move is no excuse. What you're suggesting is that the players weren't great so Belichick couldn't get more out of them than what they were. I like that M3 can get more out of his players some 3rd string, rookies, and former PS players than they would be on their own. He's playing with scrubs and getting wins out of them. By your logic that makes him better than Belichick. You should be loving all over M3 right now.

[Bretsky]

The Cleveland Browns may care to disagree with you. M3 is in his fourth year, the same year that Belichick finished with a 5-11 record and left the Browns. What about that 5-11 season leads you to believe that the Cheat has more genius in him than M3?

I've listed on the NFL network about BB's stint with the Browns; they felt he got a raw deal and the year they left there was conflict among the management, several key injuries, and they had some bad breaks this year. To be honest I lack the knowledge about his Cleveland reign to make an argument either way.

To answer your last loaded question, how many SB's was MM a DC for ? How many did BB help with before going to the Pats ? I know that's not completely fair but I think your question is loaded so I give back a loaded answer.

What, if anything, about MM leads you to believe he has some of the Hoody genius in him ? We've watched him a few years and I don't think many will argue he's outstanding.

My guess is most feel he's alright

[rbaloha1]

To me Capers is a magician if you think about it. He has a defense with several starters on IR and with the backups' backups and street FAs filling in he has molded our D into the top ranked D as far as scoring against and the #3 against the pass.

Magician? Its called coaching -- nothing magical.

[rbaloha1]

MM is alright

I've listed on the NFL network about BB's stint with the Browns; they felt he got a raw deal and the year they left there was conflict among the management, several key injuries, and they had some bad breaks this year. To be honest I lack the knowledge about his Cleveland reign to make an argument either way.

To answer your last loaded question, how many SB's was MM a DC for ? How many did BB help with before going to the Pats ? I know that's not completely fair but I think your question is loaded so I give back a loaded answer.




What, if anything, about MM leads you to believe he has some of the Hoody genius in him ? We've watched him a few years and I don't think many will argue he's outstanding.

My guess is most feel he's alright

He is alright -- which means good regular season records, bad records in close games and poor playoff performance.