A Little Pissed at Rodgers

[red]

i think the general consensus in the game day thread was that it really didn't matter if he slid or went headfirst. ever single time this year that he's given up and slid he's been hit in the head by some asshole anyways

without ever getting a flag

[Joemailman]

I'll bet if you went back and looked at replays of when he has slid, that would not be the case.

[bobblehead]

I'll bet if you went back and looked at replays of when he has slid, that would not be the case.

In chicago a defender literally jumped ass first on Aarons head after he was on the ground...can't remember if it was a slide or what exactly the situation was, but there definately should have been a flag. I can think of 2 other cases he slid that a defender jumped on him, once shoulder to helmet and not a flag either time. That is 3 I remember off the top of my head.

[bobblehead]

Because he's a football player and he wants to win. We don't yell at RB's to slide, so why yell at the QB?

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different position with a different skill set and a different body type. RBs have much thicker necks and are far more powerful. They are entirely different types of athletes. When QB's get tackled they take the brunt of it, almost never delivering the hit. The few exceptions I can recall would be Elway, McNair, McNabb, and Young (and even young got concussions, but I don't recall if they came in open field or the pocket.) There have been a few others who were built for it, but failed as QB's so they didn't have the impact. Vince Young, Jamarcus Russel, David Klingler.

[Guiness]

different position with a different skill set and a different body type. RBs have much thicker necks and are far more powerful. They are entirely different types of athletes. When QB's get tackled they take the brunt of it, almost never delivering the hit. The few exceptions I can recall would be Elway, McNair, McNabb, and Young (and even young got concussions, but I don't recall if they came in open field or the pocket.) There have been a few others who were built for it, but failed as QB's so they didn't have the impact. Vince Young, Jamarcus Russel, David Klingler.

Pretty much what I wanted to say. An RB is under 6' tall (usually 5'10"?) and 220 - built like a fireplug. A QB is 6'2" to 6'5", same weight.

I'd add Culpepper to your list of QB's that could deliver a hit.

[Pugger]

In chicago a defender literally jumped ass first on Aarons head after he was on the ground...can't remember if it was a slide or what exactly the situation was, but there definately should have been a flag. I can think of 2 other cases he slid that a defender jumped on him, once shoulder to helmet and not a flag either time. That is 3 I remember off the top of my head.

I can think of 2 more incidents where defenders could hit AR in the head or grab his facemask in the AZ playoff game and each time the refs swallowed their whistles.

[bobblehead]

Pretty much what I wanted to say. An RB is under 6' tall (usually 5'10"?) and 220 - built like a fireplug. A QB is 6'2" to 6'5", same weight.

I'd add Culpepper to your list of QB's that could deliver a hit.

I put Culpepper on the "failed as a QB list Seriously though, he was stout. This Cam Newton could be special. I thought nothing of him as he scrambled for 1000 yards, but when teams stacked up to stop him from running....oh oh, he is an accurate passer who makes reasonable decisions. The problem is, with ONE season to grade him on, its hard to take the guy in the top 15. He MIGHT be as good as advertised, but I like the TT method of taking seniors with a lot of film to study. Its the reason he doesn't flop his picks in the first two rounds as much as wolf did.

[packerbacker1234]

Honestly Rodgers in or not, I'm not sure we win that game. Say what you want, Rodgers had basically an entire half of football and produced "0" points. There was nothing happening that suggested it was going to change in the second half. The only glimmer was a deep "should of been caught" TD pass that litterally jennings just dropped, and watched it flop right into the defenders hands. That play, if caught, was the glimmer. But prior to and after that, nothing was really happening.

In fact, Flynn got the ball moving almost immediatly in the second half, because you could tell the gameplan changed. We went dink and dunk and it worked. We would not of went dink and dunk with Rodgers out there, and hence, I think the first half struggles would of continued. I like to think we win that game with rodgers, but I saw no reason in the first half outside of the one throw Jennings dropped. We were getting outplayed badly, and that was with AR.

[pbmax]

Yup, Fritz is on a roll displaying stupidity at its finest this A.M.

Now for my stupid take:

I believe Rodgers was feeling pressed cuz he knew that was not a game that could be lost. HE made a bad move and ate it. He went down going balls to the wall. Cant hate on him for that. Instead of blaming him for not sliding how about blaming his dumbass coach for not running with the actual RB or the GM for not getting a better RB?

Because part of Rodgers job description is to be available every game. He is not the coach or GM, but he is responsible for playing. And as a running QB, he is a running bullseye on the field out of the pocket. It wasn't even a 3rd down play, was it?

It was 2nd and five.

[pbmax]

Honestly Rodgers in or not, I'm not sure we win that game. Say what you want, Rodgers had basically an entire half of football and produced "0" points. There was nothing happening that suggested it was going to change in the second half. The only glimmer was a deep "should of been caught" TD pass that litterally jennings just dropped, and watched it flop right into the defenders hands. That play, if caught, was the glimmer. But prior to and after that, nothing was really happening.

In fact, Flynn got the ball moving almost immediatly in the second half, because you could tell the gameplan changed. We went dink and dunk and it worked. We would not of went dink and dunk with Rodgers out there, and hence, I think the first half struggles would of continued. I like to think we win that game with rodgers, but I saw no reason in the first half outside of the one throw Jennings dropped. We were getting outplayed badly, and that was with AR.

Nevermind, my memory is horrible. I thought the Packer FG was in the first half.

[rbaloha1]

Aaron's not dumb, but he does have a stubborn streak. Now that he's put his own health in jeopardy (2 concussions in 2 months is serious business), and probably harmed his team's playoff chances, I'm pretty confident he'll finally get the message.

Its Berkley arrogance. Could be interesting if Stanford Harbaugh takes over.

[Pugger]

Honestly Rodgers in or not, I'm not sure we win that game. Say what you want, Rodgers had basically an entire half of football and produced "0" points. There was nothing happening that suggested it was going to change in the second half. The only glimmer was a deep "should of been caught" TD pass that litterally jennings just dropped, and watched it flop right into the defenders hands. That play, if caught, was the glimmer. But prior to and after that, nothing was really happening.

In fact, Flynn got the ball moving almost immediatly in the second half, because you could tell the gameplan changed. We went dink and dunk and it worked. We would not of went dink and dunk with Rodgers out there, and hence, I think the first half struggles would of continued. I like to think we win that game with rodgers, but I saw no reason in the first half outside of the one throw Jennings dropped. We were getting outplayed badly, and that was with AR.

Had Quarless not fumbled and Jennings not had a sure TD bounce off his hands the score would have been 10 - 0 by halftime so you really can't say that Rodgers didn't produce any points - he can't do it alone. And who is to say Rodgers couldn't have rallied the troops in the second half?

[Patler]

Aaron's not dumb, but he does have a stubborn streak. Now that he's put his own health in jeopardy (2 concussions in 2 months is serious business), and probably harmed his team's playoff chances, I'm pretty confident he'll finally get the message.

...and if he crumples up and slides with defenders too far away, other fans will question his determination, his desire to win, his "willingness to do what it takes". God forbid that he slides and comes up short. He will be pilloried by fans.

Rodgers HAS slid quite often at the ends of runs, he has also managed to avoid hits at times and pickup extra yardage. He thought there were more yards to be had, and tried to get them. I doubt it was because of a personality flaw.

[Joemailman]

Patler, I could agree with your post if it weren't for the fact that he was 13 yards past what he needed for the 1st down. Would he have been criticized for only getting 18 yards when he could have gotten 20? I doubt it. I like the fact that Rodgers is aggressive when running the ball, but he needs to realize that he is the most indispensable member on the team. That game did not hinge on how many yards Rodgers gained on that play. We may look back and say that the season hinged on the fact that Rodgers was knocked out of that game, and the one about to be played.

[Scott Campbell]

...and if he crumples up and slides with defenders too far away, other fans will question his determination, his desire to win, his "willingness to do what it takes". God forbid that he slides and comes up short. He will be pilloried by fans.

He already did slide and come up short once this year. There wasn't much fan backlash as far as I can tell.