Flynn As a Starter Full Time. Could He Win?

[SnakeLH2006]

Snake likes Flynn...He's a good guy. He studies hard, etc. But hey, he sucks running the team as the QB. MM loves raving about Flynn over the past few years in minicamp, but hey....enough is enough.

Let's critique Matt Flynn.

1) He's been a winner. I like winners.

He won at LSU and won the BCS championship......That means nothing, though. Look at past Heisman winners or QB's for BCS champs. Most don't do much in the NFL. I liked when he got drafted in the 7th round....deece pick for the Emergency QB....but hey he's fucking terrible. I cringe EVERY time I see a snap. Either he fumbles or throws a weak-ass pass that barely gets caught. He's effing bad...Read bad...Hassleback, Brunell, the dude from the Saints, etc. could play NFL QB. Flynn is so far out his league I cringe watching him. There is no chance of him playing well (not getting sacked or dropping a weak pass to a WR, or 80% of the time to the RB for 2 yards). He's SO terrible.

2) Accuracy/Awareness....Arguably, the Packers have a top-5 WR core in the NFL. Guys that can snare an errant pass and make some yards. I'm not as high on our WR core as some (Jordy can't make plays, Jones is erratic, DD is old and hurt, GJenn is awesome, Swain should be the #3....I like Swain as the next Wes Welker, but hey....Flynn has not impressed me at all. He isn't accurate at all.

3) Arm Strength: Hahhahahahahaha. None. Bring back Ty Detmer.

4) Look downs. ISO (In Snake's Opinion) this is one of the most important attributes to a good NFL QB if there is one. Favre was great at it.......so is Rodgers.....Flynn looks at his 1st option...if that, and get scrambled running around and is lucky to find his dump off RB. He's so terrible here. Arod is elite cuz he looks up and down the field and finds the 3rd option, etc. Flynn is VERY bad here.

5) Running the team. I don't give an eff what Jordy or others say in media reports, cuz NOONE has confidence in Flynn running the team. It's all media-speak. He has no idea what's going on.

Flynn is not the next good backup QB from GB. His arm-strength is Sooooooooooooooo weak I almost didn't stop with the oooooooooooooooooo's. He can't look down at an option after #1 (look at his eyes on TV) without dumping it off or scrambling.

He is Drew Stanton (who has proven to suck in the NFL, but beat the Pack last week). The difference being Stanton has a cannon for an arm. But that got him drafted higher......in the very early 2nd round.

Flynn sucks and we can't score 10 points a game with that weak armed Ty Detmer clone at QB, no matter what media spin MM or that underachiever named Jordy spin. We might as be the Bills. Eff that....I'd take Fitzpatrick over Flynn any fucking day.

So, technically, but hell, WTF, Flynn is way BELOW avg. for a starting QB. ARod is elite. When's the last time Flynn (preseason, etc). has done shit to make ANYONE think this guy has a chance to win a game? Really, Snake is so down on Flynn, that honestly, I don't think we could beat ANY NFL team with Flynn at QB. He might have the weakest arm I've EVER seen this side of Ty Detmer.......and this is going back 18 years. Just damn sad. Name a starting QB this week you WOULDN'T start over Flynn? Yeah he sucks.

If Arod was healthy, we'd stand a chance vs. the Patriots. Flynn couldn't beat.................ANYONE...He's TERRIBLE.

Patriots 42, Packers 6.

[Gunakor]

Flynn, statistically, had a better day in Detroit than Rodgers did in just about equal playing time. From a performance standpoint, Flynn's interception was on Flynn while Rodgers' pick was on Jennings, yet the offense was more productive moving down the field with Flynn under center.

As it pertains to this upcoming game, I'm not sure it mattered who starts at QB for us. This is a game I expected us to lose from the day the schedule was released. Which will make a victory that much more satisfying. Can Flynn win? Sure, he's not unfamiliar with our offense. And he's being mentored by the same coaching staff that turned Rodgers from a draft day question mark into a Pro Bowler. But given the competition this week I'd say it's very unlikely.

Your poll asks us to evaluate Flynn as a full time starter, and we haven't seen nearly enough of him to make that evaluation. We could try, but we'd likely be dead wrong. If someone asked you to evaluate Aaron Rodgers the week after he came in to play the second half against New England when Favre had gone down, odds are you'd say that Aaron Rodgers was garbage and couldn't beat anyone as well. Remember, Rodgers was way below average for a BACKUP quarterback. I'm glad those who make decisions up there were patient enough to let Rodgers develop, and I'm certain that's where we're at with Flynn right now too.

But, we have to remember something here. Flynn is a backup QB. Not a projected starter for us like Rodgers was. So IMO this poll is unfair because nobody expects Flynn to be our starting QB to begin with. He's not Aaron Rodgers, that's a given. Rodgers started several seasons and set all kinds of school passing records for a pac-10 school, then was invited to New York for the draft and was drafted in the first round by the Packers with the complete understanding by all that he was our future franchise QB. Flynn started just one season at LSU and was drafted in the seventh round as a project QB - who immediately outplayed a 2nd round QB to EARN his spot as the #2 QB. But the #2 QB is still not #1. So you can't fairly compare the two, given the respective roles of the two players, and the incredibly small sample size from which to evaluate Flynn.

Who knows, given a full week of preparation with the #1's, he might even surprise you Snake.

[Gunakor]

Also, in this poll are we assuming Flynn to be the starter in 2011, or somewhere further down the line? My uneducated guess in the matter is that Flynn could win at least 5-7 games in 2011, but that number goes up as he gets more coaching and experience. If he were named the starter heading into 2011, my guess is he'd have us back in the playoffs by 2013 assuming he has the same elite QB coaching AR has benefited from since being drafted.

[Tarlam!]

I'm a fan of the GB QB's. I think Flynn will do just fine in this league; similar to Rodgers. We all remember the knocks on the latter coming out, don't we? Tedford QB, cocks his throwing arm to high, bad athlete, arrogant etc etc etc.

Flynn hasn't had quite the grooming in seasons on the bench, but he beat out a 2nd round pick to a) become 2nd string, b) stay on the roster when TT went with only one backup.

Given that this coaching staff decided for Rodgers over Favre so energetically, I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt with their handling of the backup position. I expext the argument that Rodgers had a whole training camp and then some to get ready. Sure, no question, but he also had a freakin' circus tent environment to practice in and, when it finally came time to pull the trigger, had some enormous shoes to fill.

[MJZiggy]

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I'm a fan of the GB QB's. I think Flynn will do just fine in this league; similar to Rodgers. We all remember the knocks on the latter coming out, don't we? Tedford QB, cocks his throwing arm to high, bad athlete, arrogant etc etc etc.

Flynn hasn't had quite the grooming in seasons on the bench, but he beat out a 2nd round pick to a) become 2nd string, b) stay on the roster when TT went with only one backup.

Given that this coaching staff decided for Rodgers over Favre so energetically, I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt with their handling of the backup position. I expext the argument that Rodgers had a whole training camp and then some to get ready. Sure, no question, but he also had a freakin' circus tent environment to practice in and, when it finally came time to pull the trigger, had some enormous shoes to fill.

I don't think it's a comparison, really. Rodgers is Rodgers; Flynn is Flynn. The kid has no playing experience and it's simply too soon to tie him to the train tracks based on half a game (ok, fine. Just like it was for Rodgers when he came in for Favre the first time). And you're right. Our coaches know what they're doing with their QBs.

[packrulz]

I look at Matt's poise, leadership, footwork, release, and accuracy, he has all the tangibles you look for, his timing was off last week, but after a week of practice with the starters I won't be surprised if he throws for 3 TD's this week, if he has time to throw.

[Freak Out]

You will see just what he can today my friend. Prepare to be surprised. The Packers have the talent on offense to win with Flynn....if M3 uses them correctly.

[Bretsky]

You will see just what he can today my friend. Prepare to be surprised. The Packers have the talent on offense to win with Flynn....if M3 uses them correctly.

You'd have better odds of buying me a caramel gift today than watching Hoody lose to Matt Flynn to win

[Pugger]

I don't think we have enough evidence at this level to say how Flynn would do as a starter full time. He isn't Rodgers but not many in the league today are. Ask us again after tonight. I'm not anticipating a W tonight by any stretch but I want to see how he performs under these conditions.

[MJZiggy]

You'd have better odds of buying me a caramel gift today than watching Hoody lose to Matt Flynn to win

This is a bet waiting to happen..

[rbaloha1]

Expect improved performance but needs more reps with the 1st team.

[Guiness]

I'm a fan of the GB QB's. I think Flynn will do just fine in this league; similar to Rodgers. We all remember the knocks on the latter coming out, don't we? Tedford QB, cocks his throwing arm to high, bad athlete, arrogant etc etc etc.

Flynn hasn't had quite the grooming in seasons on the bench, but he beat out a 2nd round pick to a) become 2nd string, b) stay on the roster when TT went with only one backup.

Given that this coaching staff decided for Rodgers over Favre so energetically, I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt with their handling of the backup position. I expext the argument that Rodgers had a whole training camp and then some to get ready. Sure, no question, but he also had a freakin' circus tent environment to practice in and, when it finally came time to pull the trigger, had some enormous shoes to fill.

I don't think the fact Flynn beat out a 2nd round pick means anything going forward wrt his success.

[denverYooper]

You will see just what he can today my friend. Prepare to be surprised. The Packers have the talent on offense to win with Flynn....if M3 uses them correctly.

I'm with Freak Out. I think Flynn can have success with the right game plan if the receivers and running game do their work. I'm not so sure about him keeping pace in a shootout--I think Aaron is a cut above him there-- so the defense has to do its part.

[rbaloha1]

Forgot about BB. Thought BB was going to be a good NFL qb. This failure is still hurting unless graham harrell is the answer.

[gbgary]

Flynn As a Starter Full Time. Could He Win?

who the heck knows?! no one's seen him play at this level more than a few plays and last week doesn't count. if we had some aged veteran qb at the helm then i'd be all for seeing how he could do for a long run of games...but we have Rodgers...i hope after today we never see him play again. on the other hand...if trent dilfer can win, so can Flynn.