Official Packers vs. Patriots Game Day Thread

[pbmax]

Success is when preparation meets opportunity. Their lack of confidence comes from MM's lack of confidence. He tightens up. You can see it, his teams are not prepared. Why didn't they have a set of scripted plays for this exact situation for Flynn? Or maybe call 2-3 plays at once during one of the other timeouts? Anything to show that their coach put them in the absolute best position to win.

Little things like this adds up to losses. The expectations of this particular game don't matter. We had opportunities like we've had all year and once again took a piss down the leg. Teams personify their (top) leader.

No one calls three plays. he called two the previous timeout on 2nd down, if memory serves (and it might not, I have been horrible on down recall lately).

[Bossman641]

Success is when preparation meets opportunity. Their lack of confidence comes from MM's lack of confidence. He tightens up. You can see it, his teams are not prepared. Why didn't they have a set of scripted plays for this exact situation for Flynn? Or maybe call 2-3 plays at once during one of the other timeouts? Anything to show that their coach put them in the absolute best position to win.

Little things like this adds up to losses. The expectations of this particular game don't matter. We had opportunities like we've had all year and once again took a piss down the leg. Teams personify their (top) leader.

They called the timeout before second down. They lined up for the 2nd and 3rd down plays pretty quickly, which would lead me to believe they had 2 plays called coming out of the timeout. I've never heard of a team having 3 plays called coming out of a timeout.

[pbmax]

I tend to agree. We have seen this same scenario time and time again. It is no longer just "one of those things." It is now what should be expected from McCarthy in similar situations. Confusion, desperation and failure.

Do you paint Capers this same way because his defense allowed a late score? Against no huddle? And against runs versus the nickel?

[Bossman641]

No one calls three plays. he called two the previous timeout on 2nd down, if memory serves (and it might not, I have been horrible on down recall lately).

The TO was before second down.

[Patler]

I think by your terms of a different part of the team struggling, then we are not seeing the same thing over and over. I am worried about the close game record too, but other than penalties and a willingness to settle for long FGs, I do not see a trend with him that is costing him. And penalties or FGs were not the problem tonight.

Tonight he had a QB that could not call another play on the fly while eitherr listening to his headset or ignoring it. That is new. Rodgers has not had a problem calling the play at the line.

I see a lot of trends from him, all leading to failure. The biggest is that instead of wringing as many opportunities (plays) out of a limited time as he can, he seems willing to give himself about four plays to score regardless how far away he is.

[Noodle]

I say the Hooded One put the scrambler on and totally screwed with Stubby's ability to radio in the final play to Flynn.

That F-er will stoop lower than a snake's belly to win.

I'll say this -- I'm totally impressed with the way the team didn't fold after that horrific end of the first, start of the second half. Dudes fought tough. Stubby tried to milk too much clock at the end, but then everyone one this board agreed with that at the time. You know you were all thinking "don't score too quickly."

So give the guy a friggin' break.

But FIRE SLOCUM!

[pbmax]

I see a lot of trends from him, all leading to failure. The biggest is that instead of wringing as many opportunities (plays) out of a limited time as he can, he seems willing to give himself about four plays to score regardless how far away he is.

Because of TO usage or the speed with which plays get called? He doesn't run much in the 2 minute drill and he does have the QB spike.

He does not seem to insist on sideline routes except in very specific situations. What else have you seen?

[Iron Mike]

Little things like this adds up to losses. The expectations of this particular game don't matter. We had opportunities like we've had all year and once again took a piss down the leg. Teams personify their (top) leader.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whenever Mr. and Mrs. Mc Carthy fuck, about the time that M3 should start the "piledriver" maneuver, his left eye starts wandering and he comes about five minutes before he should??

[denverYooper]

I see a lot of trends from him, all leading to failure. The biggest is that instead of wringing as many opportunities (plays) out of a limited time as he can, he seems willing to give himself about four plays to score regardless how far away he is.

With a backup quarterback in limited time?

[Patler]

Do you paint Capers this same way because his defense allowed a late score? Against no huddle? And against runs versus the nickel?

Not so much in this game, because at least they got the final stop to give the offense an opportunity. Unfortunately, the use of the final four and a half minutes by the offense was quite poor.

But overall, the defense had some moments, but also offered little to no resistance at other times. Which lead to MM not being aggressive in the final minutes. His goal was to use up all the time so as not to put the game in the hands of ST first, then the D.

He did not approach the end of the game with confidence.

[pbmax]

And its odd, because the one thing I have not liked about McCarthy's offense when down (either four minute or two minute offense) is that he doesn't hold back anything and tends to score early. Which puts his defense back out there. But that does not seem to be panic in this game. He might be facing the best offense in the league.

You could argue that the TOs came from too far away or they should have gone hurry up earlier, that I can see. But it seems specific to this game. Going slowly was helping get good calls to Flynn in his normal pattern. he probably had not run too much no huddle.

[Patler]

With a backup quarterback in limited time?

This was just one time of several, but even tonight, with Flynn, they could have used the last 4 minutes better than they did. The sad thing is that a little more efficient use to give them another 10 seconds may have allowed them to run a normal play scenario on the last play.

MM appeared scared of scoring with too much time left, so he frittered time away, then didn't have enough time for himself on the final play.

[Joemailman]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whenever Mr. and Mrs. Mc Carthy fuck, about the time that M3 should start the "piledriver" maneuver, his left eye starts wandering and he comes about five minutes before he should??

I think it's just you.

[Iron Mike]

I think it's just you.

I beg to differ.

[vince]

The 14 points handed to the Patriots by Flynn and the KO coverage team were pretty big in this game.