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  • #16
    Originally posted by VermontPackFan View Post
    I have been critical of BB but think he bounces back on Sunday to justify us picking him in the 1st round.
    This is a Joke right? Justify picking him in the 1st round?! He has already done that, remember he is a rookie! Do you know ANY rookies that come out on O Line and are shut down tackles? NO!bc
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by VermontPackFan View Post
      Your right, I suppose this game has the potential to go that route if all phases of our game break down and are dominated by the Giants. But I dont see that happening...Some unit will step up their game in this do or die situation.

      Who will it be? Our offensive line protecing Rodgers and opening running lanes or our front seven stopping a very good ground game. As I said in my original post, I think the Giants ground game will be productive, especially w/Jenkins out. This is going to limit our offensive touches but I am predicting our Oline mans up and plays well against a dominant Dline. Clifton & Bulaga are the keys here, I have been critical of BB but think he bounces back on Sunday to justify us picking him in the 1st round.

      I like your optimism, but I can't agree. The Giants are a perfect (from their perspective) matchup for the Packers. Their strengths match the Packer's weaknesses. If the Lions could roll up 180 on the Pack, the Giants should be able to roll up 200 plus - especially since they have a QB and receivers to give the Packers fits. The middle of the field will be wide open too, especially if the Packers cheat Peprah or Collins up on run downs. On offense, the Packers O-line is going to get obliterated. I'm predicting 3 first downs for the Packers in the first half. The only hope is that Eli has one of his 'Viking' games - but even then, with multiple interceptions, the Packers still might not be able to move the ball at all.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #18
        Geez mraynrand...
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
          This is a Joke right? Justify picking him in the 1st round?! He has already done that, remember he is a rookie! Do you know ANY rookies that come out on O Line and are shut down tackles? NO!bc
          Jake Long? He is in a diff league obviously, oh yea, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson?
          Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. -Morticia Addams

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          • #20
            Joe Thomas, Tony Boselli, Jonathon Ogden.

            Of course the GREATS dominate right away, but BB has been solid, he still must improve and with the mighty campen coaching him up, its almost a lock.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              Geez mraynrand...

              I'm just doing you a favor. Enjoy your Christmas - be thankful it is before the game, because Packer fans aren't going to be feeling good about the Packers until next September. Sunday will be an epic blowout.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Mazzin View Post
                Jake Long? He is in a diff league obviously, oh yea, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson?
                Long is very good. Ferguson gave up 10.5 sacks in his rookie year and 13.25 his second. Bulaga is at 10.00 according to Stats, Inc.

                Keep in mind also that Bulaga switched sides.
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • #23
                  The people on this board expect EVERY 1st round pick to be legendary...
                  Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                  • #24
                    Some OT's do step right in though. Not sure how but they have. The guy that came to my mind right away is Joe Thomas.

                    I'm fine with Buluga. I think he'll be a fine OL for many years to come. But unlike some in here, I think he was drafted where he should have been. He has some weaknesses in his game that caused him to be graded down from the guys taken above him and I think he's a late first round guy.

                    Sitton and Bulaga would be the two I have most confidence in for two years from now
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                      Long is very good. Ferguson gave up 10.5 sacks in his rookie year and 13.25 his second. Bulaga is at 10.00 according to Stats, Inc.

                      Keep in mind also that Bulaga switched sides.
                      D'Brick was a 4th pick, Long 1st overall, BB 23rd overall...
                      Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                        The people on this board expect EVERY 1st round pick to be legendary...
                        People everywhere expect every 1st round pick to be legendary.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          Some OT's do step right in though. Not sure how but they have. The guy that came to my mind right away is Joe Thomas.

                          I'm fine with Buluga. I think he'll be a fine OL for many years to come. But unlike some in here, I think he was drafted where he should have been. He has some weaknesses in his game that caused him to be graded down from the guys taken above him and I think he's a late first round guy.

                          Sitton and Bulaga would be the two I have most confidence in for two years from now
                          They are the only two likely to be on the roster 2 years from now. Jury out on the new guy.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by retailguy View Post
                            They are the only two likely to be on the roster 2 years from now. Jury out on the new guy.
                            I think Lang's got a shot. And both Newhouse and McDonald have shots to be on the roster in two years just because GB tends to let even bad players stick around for two to three years (Giacomini, Barbre).
                            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                              This is a Joke right? Justify picking him in the 1st round?! He has already done that, remember he is a rookie! Do you know ANY rookies that come out on O Line and are shut down tackles? NO!bc
                              No Im not kidding, he started strong but has been shakey at best over the past 5 games. He was embarrassed in both the SF & Detroit games. Im hoping he has hit the rookie wall and am predicting he has a strong game on Sunday but by no means has he demonstrated that he is the long term solution to RT or LT to date. He has potential but simply has not played well this year...

                              How about Michael Oher? Picked 23rd I think, dominated as a RT in rookie year moved to LT the next...

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                              • #30
                                Oher didn't "dominate" as a rookie. He was good, solid, reliable, but not dominant.

                                Incidently, that is who I was begging for at #9, but I can live with the Raji/Mathews picks I guess.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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