James Jones!

[Kiwon]

Oh man, how did he miss that catch?!

[SkinBasket]

Oh man, how did he miss that catch?!

I think I've covered that several times in this thread...

[PA Pack Fan]

James Jones is the worst clutch receiver ever. I would never ever sign him to an extension. What a douche.

[MadtownPacker]

Turns out James Jones is still a fucking retard.

I aint gonna lie, when I read this post right after the game I fucking laughed. The timing was pretty good.

[GrnBay007]

Yep, he's had some not so good games. But.........none of the Packers receivers have been completely consistent this season. I still trust Driver the most That smile....how can you resist? lol

It's the playoffs! Every completed catch means the world and every dropped pass means the world. If he hadn't dropped that pass the Packers may have sealed the deal earlier. If he hadn't made the catch for a TD the Packers may have lost. Lets try to look at the positive rather than the negative please. I still have high hopes for JJ !!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I heard somebody say that if he doesn't make the TD catch, we lose 16-14. Well, not really. That was a first down play, so there would have been a couple more chances to get a TD. Plus, we very likely get at least 3 points out of that drive.

[Freak Out]

Howz the boy 007?

[SnakeLH2006]

Man...I used to worship JJ over Jordy....but dear god how many times can this guy miss a dead on pass and FAIL!!! I used to tear Partial up over JJ's skills, but really, if you can't catch a simple ball...FU! JJ goes on my shit list. Don't resign a guy who makes deece plays/has more talent than Jordy.....if they CAN'T EVER catch a perfect pass. One mistake is something, but really, this guy is the most un-clutch WR I've EVER seen. Don't resign this turd.

[Patler]

I heard somebody say that if he doesn't make the TD catch, we lose 16-14. Well, not really. That was a first down play, so there would have been a couple more chances to get a TD. Plus, we very likely get at least 3 points out of that drive.

Well, if you are going to play the "coulda", "woulda", "shoulda" game to minimize the significance of his TD catch, you have to for his drop, too, and minimize the significance of it. It's not guaranteed that he would have scored even if he did catch it. He isn't the fastest player on the field. His drop also didn't have to result in 0 points. It came on first down too, but with 31 seconds left MM essentially packed it in for the half. He coulda/shoulda gone aggressively for the yards for a FG attempt, or taken another attempt deep for a TD. Instead, MM gave up.

If Jones TD is mnimized by what "coulda" happened, his drop is minimized by what "shoulda" happened after it.

[Patler]

Now we know the reason!

From MM's press conference:

James has been playing for quite some time with a very painful thumb injury, something that doesn’t really show up on the medical reports as far as what’s communicated. But it’s on our medical report. You don’t like to put those things out for competitive reasons. But it’s something that he’s been dealing with for a number of weeks.

I wonder if MM has opened himself up to scrutiny from the league on his injury reports?

[mraynrand]

Now we know the reason!

From MM's press conference:



I wonder if MM has opened himself up to scrutiny from the league on his injury reports?

No, because it seems obvious that it's not affecting their decision on playing him. He's not 'probable' or 'questionable' - he's playing for sure. They just don't want defenders to know they should bang on the guy's hand when they get the chance. Also, players all have different psyches - Maybe Stubby is playing a bit of a mental game here to make sure he doesn't lose Jones. At the same time, he can't give him leeway enough to be making excuses before he even drops a pass...

[Patler]

No, because it seems obvious that it's not affecting their decision on playing him. He's not 'probable' or 'questionable' - he's playing for sure. They just don't want defenders to know they should bang on the guy's hand when they get the chance. Also, players all have different psyches - Maybe Stubby is playing a bit of a mental game here to make sure he doesn't lose Jones. At the same time, he can't give him leeway enough to be making excuses before he even drops a pass...

Do you know this from the rules on injury reporting, or are you guessing? Weren't the Jets fined under similar circumstances with regard to Favre, for not disclosing an injury because they expected he would play?

To Jones credit, when he was asked about it, he said his thumb had absolutely nothing to do with the drop, that it was just a bad play by him.

[Patler]

Just looked it up. The Jets were fined $125,000. They said this:

Tannenbaum said the Jets didn't list Favre on the report because the injury wasn't severe enough to require daily treatment and there was never any doubt the quarterback would play.

[mraynrand]

Do you know this from the rules on injury reporting, or are you guessing? Weren't the Jets fined under similar circumstances with regard to Favre, for not disclosing an injury because they expected he would play?

To Jones credit, when he was asked about it, he said his thumb had absolutely nothing to do with the drop, that it was just a bad play by him.

I wasn't guessing really, I was just explaining what I think their logic was. Based on the rules, I would expect that they should report him as "probable, thumb." Knowing the status of Jones' thumb is critical for accurate gambling, which is why the injury report was mandated in the first place. Same for reporting practice participation in 2004.

I found this interesting article doing a search (ahman green is featured):
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...rt-cover_N.htm


edit: so, I guess Stubby should anticipate a fine from the NFL, except that the NFL doesn't fine all that often (unless one of their execs loses a big bet)

[Patler]

I wasn't guessing really, I was just explaining what I think their logic was. Based on the rules, I would expect that they should report him as "probable, thumb." Knowing the status of Jones' thumb is critical for accurate gambling, which is why the injury report was mandated in the first place. Same for reporting practice participation in 2004.

I found this interesting article doing a search (ahman green is featured):

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-11-22-injury-report-cover_N.htm

edit: so, I guess Stubby should anticipate a fine from the NFL, except that the NFL doesn't fine all that often (unless one of their execs loses a big bet)

MM made it pretty clear why they didn't report it, saying it was for "competitive reasons". If that's true, that there was a competitive impact, it would seem to be exactly the type of injury the NFL would want on the report.