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  • #31
    I think he's a keeper as your # three guy, but he's not going to take #3 receiver money, I don't think. I think someone else will pony up, and as was said here, TT will not match that.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #32
      Jordy gets one more year in my book to prove he can hold onto the ball since he's a year younger and doesn't speak about himself in the third person. You can't get rid of both of them in the same year anyway. That'd be too many rooks at once.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by vince View Post
        Jordy gets one more year in my book to prove he can hold onto the ball since he's a year younger and doesn't speak about himself in the third person. You can't get rid of both of them in the same year anyway. That'd be too many rooks at once.
        Plus, Jordy's faster than he looks. James Jones wouldn't have outrun that safety.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by VermontPackFan View Post
          Yeah, what he said...
          Jones will test the FA market and someone will pony up some big $ for his potential/flashes of brilliance. TT knows better and will not come close to matching it.
          Agree. The inconsistency prevents JJ from becoming a replacement for DD. Someone will offer big dollars and become disappointed.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by vince View Post
            Jordy gets one more year in my book to prove he can hold onto the ball since he's a year younger and doesn't speak about himself in the third person. You can't get rid of both of them in the same year anyway. That'd be too many rooks at once.
            Agree. JN must also display consistency -- drops too many passes.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
              Plus, Jordy's faster than he looks. James Jones wouldn't have outrun that safety.
              Deceptive long strider speed. Fools black dbs all the time.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                Deceptive long strider speed. Fools black dbs all the time.
                I think you mean all DBs. And you really think they see Jordy skin color and think the guy can't play? It's the damn NFL, not some high school football game. Foolish statement.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                  I think you mean all DBs. And you really think they see Jordy skin color and think the guy can't play? It's the damn NFL, not some high school football game. Foolish statement.
                  Yes. Almost all cbs are black. In fact Jason Sehorn said qbs always targeted him because he was white. The NFL has a bias against non-blacks in skilled positions other than qbs. Wake up brother!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by retailguy View Post
                    James Jones = Robert Ferguson...
                    The best year Ferguson ever had in the NFL was 520 yards. In Jones 4 years in the NFL, he's passed Fergusons best year ever twice and if not for the injury would probably be three times. Ferguson ended up with 2,000 yards total in his career. Jones is past him already. Jones is well on pace to finish somewhere in the top 200 reveivers to ever play the game in regard to total yardage. There is really no comparison.

                    Robert Ferguson was garbage and James Jones is a playmaker, having a productive career. It's not even close.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #40
                      Keep in mind its not going to be easy to find someone better. The guy has serious talent and I think we are being a little to hard on him for yesterday. That back shoulder catch was not an easy catch and he made up for it one play later on 3rd and 10. The bomb he should of caught, but if you look at the paly I think the defenders arm/hand blinded him from seeing the ball for a second. He should have caught it still and I am not making excuses for him because it seems he does this a lot now, but the guy is a good receiver. If he started from week one opposite Jennings he would at least a 1,000 yards. Driver played great yesterday, but I remember just as many drops from him as I do JJ. Does any remember the play were the ball went between his legs and almost got picked off against the pats? That was pretty sad.

                      I would rather have JJ than Driver next season. But JJ shouldn't be paid like a top reciever until he proves it. Thats why I think we don't re-sign him this off-season. Some team will pay him a lot of money though...........
                      Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                        The best year Ferguson ever had in the NFL was 520 yards. In Jones 4 years in the NFL, he's passed Fergusons best year ever twice and if not for the injury would probably be three times. Ferguson ended up with 2,000 yards total in his career. Jones is past him already. Jones is well on pace to finish somewhere in the top 200 reveivers to ever play the game in regard to total yardage. There is really no comparison.

                        Robert Ferguson was garbage and James Jones is a playmaker, having a productive career. It's not even close.
                        Justin - for me, football is about more than statistics. i could care less if Jones has better statistics. Ferguson was a "tease" for years, you always thought that greatness was just around the corner. Jones is a tease, greatness is just around the corner... Hence the comparison. Enjoy your statistics.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          I think you mean all DBs. And you really think they see Jordy skin color and think the guy can't play? It's the damn NFL, not some high school football game. Foolish statement.
                          No he meant Black DBs. Also DBs that are scared of spiders, like watermelon, love White gurls, drink sizzer, and eat hella fried chicken.

                          Why the hell does JN get a pass if JJ dont? I aint really impressed with either one of them to take DD's place. If Im TT I tell them "Let's see either of you foolz make the stretched out catch or the one handed one the old man did yesterday and then we can talk about dollars". If any are so bad ass why does #80 get dialed when a clutch catch is needed.

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                          • #43
                            retailguy -

                            But you are just comparing him to a horrible Wr and saying they are one in the same. Say something to prove that. Ferguson was injury prone and didn't make nearly as much plays as JJ. I will take JH's stats over random comparisons.

                            JJ has made a lot of plays for this football team. The guy almost has 700 yards in limited playing time.......the dude can play. I don't know why the hell he fumbles against the Bears but those could just be fluke plays. I don't know why people want to rip the guys head off and they don't mentions mistakes by other WRs on this team. This WHOLE team has been inconsistent ALL year, not just JJ.

                            Driver I'm sure leads the team in drops and thats with him missing 2-3 games. Nelson leads all Wrs and Rbs in fumbles not JJ. People blame JJ for losing the first Bears game for us, but is it any worse than Jennings drop turned INT against the Lions? That would have been the difference in the game.

                            ALL of the packers WRs are inconsistent if you ask me. If I had to choose between Nelson, Driver and Jones I would take Jones everyday of the week. I do agree he is inconsistent, but I don't understand all the hate against Jones and not everyone else. He has played better than Driver this year if you ask me and at least on par with Nelson. JJ could start for at least half the teams in the NFL.

                            Jones =/ Ferguson
                            Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                            • #44
                              good post MD. Jones is clearly better than Ferguson ever was, but his history gives him some baggage that tends to make people remember and emphasize his mistakes. I was surprised to see Driver so high on the list of dropped balls. I'd say my perception of Driver, driven by his history of spectacular catches and years of high production, causes people to tend to overlook them while the general perception of Jones causes people to remember his errors more. It seems like Jones' drops and fumbles are more blatant and costly than the other guys' - notwithstanding the big one by Jennings you cited that ultimately cost the team that game (although don't tell that to the Everything is McCarthy's Fault crowd).

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                              • #45
                                Jones has shown way more IMO than Ferguson ever did. I think the Fraud stands by himself.

                                I think Jones may develop into a #2 WR someday and is worthy of a #3. I never thought that much of Fraudie
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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