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  • #76
    Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan View Post
    I think with KGB they were so desperate for a pass rush, they were willing to not only pay him, but work hard to convince themselves he had something left in the tank.
    They did kind of seem blind to the fact that KGB had done little of nothing for several years, didn't they?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan View Post
      I think with KGB they were so desperate for a pass rush, they were willing to not only pay him, but work hard to convince themselves he had something left in the tank.
      I've met KGB a few times in the past two years. He continues to be active in his faith-based activities and likes to work with kids, preaching hard work, good character, and setting goals. In his case, the knee injury alone may have taken away his ability to make a difference on the field, but the money may have hurt his career as well; his life outside of football is comfortable and rewarding for him and he no longer needed success on the field.
      [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        They paid KGB $6.15 million in salary the year they cut him after the start of the season. Hawk is a better player now than KGB was at that time. Keeping Hawk for one Super-Bowl-run season at $10 million isn't so far fetched, imo. I could see them doing it for depth. In essence, it also would "buy" a draft pick if they let him go as a FA after 2011. They will get nothing if they let him walk this year. A lot could ride on whatever the salary cap rules are, if any.

        $10M is a lotta dough for a compensatory pick. Or maybe I should say about $5M, as that's the rough difference between what he's worth, and what he'll make.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by swede View Post
          I've met KGB a few times in the past two years. He continues to be active in his faith-based activities and likes to work with kids, preaching hard work, good character, and setting goals. In his case, the knee injury alone may have taken away his ability to make a difference on the field, but the money may have hurt his career as well; his life outside of football is comfortable and rewarding for him and he no longer needed success on the field.
          Dammit, Swede, we're trying to bash AJ Hawk or Nick Barnett or other posters here, and you muck it up with some story about how KGB is doing good in the community and living a faith-based life and being fulfilled without football. What's the matter with you?
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #80
            Originally posted by swede View Post
            I've met KGB a few times in the past two years. He continues to be active in his faith-based activities and likes to work with kids, preaching hard work, good character, and setting goals. In his case, the knee injury alone may have taken away his ability to make a difference on the field, but the money may have hurt his career as well; his life outside of football is comfortable and rewarding for him and he no longer needed success on the field.
            I've heard the same. He was always high character and certainly didn't fleece the packers, he was just done. He made a healthy transition to real life though.

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            • #81
              What if it's a 3rd round pick? I tend to think Hawk would get something closer to Barnett. Say $6M/year.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan View Post
                He had plenty of opportunity over the previous four years to show he belonged on the field and just didnt do it.
                Doesn't even belong on the field? That's just silly.
                All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                • #83
                  McGinn has Bishop as the best at taking on blockers among the ILBs. I might have to stop watching Woodson for signs of decline and start watching Bishop on D. If that is true and the coaches agree with it, then losing Hawk would not be a catastrophe.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #84
                    bollon payments are added to the end of contracts to force teams and players to negotiate a new deal before the current one is up. we see this all the time, and the case with hawk is no different.

                    teams no this, agents no this, and players should know this, but they will act like they don't.

                    i'm sure the team and hawks agent will get a new deal worked out before the start of next season. that 10 million he was suppose to earn will become part of a signing bonus or something along those lines

                    hawk is a valuable player, and you just don't get rid of young valuable players. he's just not flashy so people don't take notice of him. if he did barnetts sword thing after every tackle, or made one big hit a year like bigby, most of you haters would be calling him a god.

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                    • #85
                      I still think someone - Hawk? should stand over his opponent after a tackle & do a hip thrust.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Dammit, Swede, we're trying to bash AJ Hawk or Nick Barnett or other posters here, and you muck it up with some story about how KGB is doing good in the community and living a faith-based life and being fulfilled without football. What's the matter with you?
                        Sorry.

                        You ass, Fritz! This team is finally getting superior play out of the interior linebackers. Barnett was too busy swishing his ghey-a$$ sword to bring a truly physical nature to our defense.
                        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                        • #87
                          Man I dont get the Barnett bashing at all. I thought the biggest loss this year was of course Grant. Finley was potentially going to be a huge factor. But the second biggest loss and certainly the biggest on defense was Barnett. I think his leadership and his numbers had a huge negative impact that Capers skillfully overcame as much as he could. Nick Barnett needs to be back in green and gold next year for certain.
                          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            teams no this, agents no this, and players should know this, but they will act like they don't.
                            I'm not one to normally laugh at grammer errors, but this one it too good to pass up. thanks for the chuckle red! 1 out of 3 aint bad!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                              Doesn't even belong on the field? That's just silly.
                              I was saying BEFORE this year. He came a long way this season for sure.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                I still think someone - Hawk? should stand over his opponent after a tackle & do a hip thrust.
                                But in what style? Elvis? Madonna? Three Amigos? KGB? Michael Jackson?
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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