Playoff QB Rankings

[hoosier]

It's a ranking of playoff QB's...certainly there are other QB's ranked above him (Phillip Rivers, anyone) but THEY aren't in the playoffs.

Oops, I guess I didn't read the fine print very carefully.

[denverYooper]

Seriously though, I put Rodgers 5 on that list and 6 in the entire NFL (rivers). I also find it no fluke that all the best QB's in the NFL are in the playoffs except rivers.

Mostly agree. It's a tough call between Rodgers and Rivers mainly b/c Rivers numbers are better (this year) but I feel like Rodgers is the more solid leader.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rivers numbers aren't better this year. He has more passing yards because he stayed healthy and threw the ball more, but their numbers are practically identical. I like Rodgers over Rivers. Pretty equal throwing the ball, but Rodgers has mobility.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rivers = 101.8 passer rating, 66 comp %, 8.7 yards/pass, 30 TDs (1 every 18 attempts), 13 interceptions (1 every 42 attempts)
Rodgers = 101.2 passer rating, 66 comp %, 8.3 yards/pass, 28 TDs (1 every 17 attempts), 11 interceptions (1 every 43 atempts)

Rivers has slight edge in completion percentage and yards/pass (both in top 5 for both categories).
Rodgers has slight edge in TD rate and interception rate (TD/interception rate also).

Now, throw in the other numbers:

Rivers = 52 rushing yards, 0 rushing TDs, 38 sacks, 7 fumbles (4 lost)
Rodgers = 356 rushing yards, 4 rushing TDs, 31 sacks, 4 fumbles (1 lost)

You could easily argue that Rodgers has the better overall numbers.

[woodbuck27]

Charlie Whitehurst???!!!??

Yup.

Charlie Whitehurst played very well backing up Matt Hasselbeck in the Seahawks final season victory over the St Louis Rams to secure the NFC West title, last Sunday evening - that game was on 'the tube'. An impressive performance. Whitehurst appeared a tad light of frame to me in his interview following that game. He's listed on the poll as Hasselbeck may be questionable Vs the Saints.

GO! PACK GO !!

[RashanGary]

Brady, Brees, Manning, Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Rivers, Vick, Ryan


Splitting hairs. Once you're a great QB, you're a great QB. Numbers here, results there, clutchness here, leadership there. . . . I've never coached them, never watched a full season of any of them play. . . . .

The Packers have a great QB. They're in the playoffs. That's about as far as I take this stuff. I love our chances, in large part because of AR's HOF passing talent. He is one of the most amazing passers, I think, in NFL history and maybe the best in the game today, just throwing. There is more to QB than throwing and running, but Rodgers is tops when it comes to talent and skill. He has to put it all together, avoid the bad slumps and get some clutch wins, but he's an amazing talent, no doubt.

[vince]

Brady, Brees, Manning, Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Rivers, Vick, Ryan


Splitting hairs. Once you're a great QB, you're a great QB. Numbers here, results there, clutchness here, leadership there. . . . I've never coached them, never watched a full season of any of them play. . . . .

The Packers have a great QB. They're in the playoffs. That's about as far as I take this stuff. I love our chances, in large part because of AR's HOF passing talent. He is one of the most amazing passers, I think, in NFL history and maybe the best in the game today, just throwing. There is more to QB than throwing and running, but Rodgers is tops when it comes to talent and skill. He has to put it all together, avoid the bad slumps and get some clutch wins, but he's an amazing talent, no doubt.

+1, except for the "clutch wins" focus. The team, and Rodgers, are growing together toward "clutch wins." The D and ST has let the team down far more often than Rodgers has.

[mraynrand]

In 13 of Tom Brady's 14 playoff victories, the Patriots defense has allowed 21 or fewer points. (They allowed 29 in their victory over Carolina.) In Aaron Rodgers only postseason start, his defense allowed 45 points. The Pats have never scored 45 points in a postseason game with Tom Brady at the helm.

I know Rodgers made a few errors in that game, but he played epic football for most of that game. It's not like he played pretty well but made a couple of mistakes. He played OUT OF HIS MIND. The Packers scored touchdowns on six consecutive drives in the middle of the game. Think about that. Six consecutive touchdown drives! That's absurd.

It was an awesome display. He certainly played well enough to win it. Can't forget that QBs don't play defense. That stat about the Pats is impressive.

But one question has to linger over Rodgers until he wins playoff games - can he do it? Are the two mistakes he made in AZ just mistakes and bad fortune, or will they be part of his playoff repertoire? And, will it not matter if he has a mistake or two in the future if the defense gives up less than 21 points and Rodgers does enough to win? It's such a team game, as the old adage goes - QBs get too much credit for wins and absorb too much blame for losses.

My view is that the Packers are extremely fortunate to have one of the best (top 5) QBs in the league guiding them in the playoffs.

[mraynrand]

Oops, I guess I didn't read the fine print very carefully.

I told my parole officer the same thing

[HarveyWallbangers]

We're supposed to believe that Rodgers might not have what it takes to win playoff games, but guys like Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan are winners. We base it off this:

Rodgers is 0-1 in the playoffs. His offense scored 45 points in that game. He had 5 TDs, 1 interception, and 1 fumble. His defense gave up 45 points.

Flacco is 3-2 in the playoffs. His offense has scored no more than 33 points. He has 1 TD and 6 interceptions in those 5 games. His defense gave up 9, 10, and 14 points in his three wins.

"Matty Ice" is 0-1 in the playoffs, and he didn't even play well in that game. His team lost 30-24 vs. Arizona at home. He threw for just 199 yards on 40 attempts and added 2 interceptions.

[denverYooper]

Brady specifically mentioned Rodgers to Bill Simmons when discussing quarterbacks in Sports Guy's column this week:

we all kinda look around and admire the other guys because you realize how much of a challenge [playing quarterback] is. I look at Peyton and think, 'Man, I wish I could do the things he does.' I look at Drew Brees, same thing. Or Aaron Rodgers.

While Brady is talking about the quarterback fraternity as a whole in the conversation, I found it notable that he mentioned Rodgers along with Manning and Brees as guys with skill sets he admires.

[Tony Oday]

Rivers = 101.8 passer rating, 66 comp %, 8.7 yards/pass, 30 TDs (1 every 18 attempts), 13 interceptions (1 every 42 attempts)
Rodgers = 101.2 passer rating, 66 comp %, 8.3 yards/pass, 28 TDs (1 every 17 attempts), 11 interceptions (1 every 43 atempts)

Rivers has slight edge in completion percentage and yards/pass (both in top 5 for both categories).
Rodgers has slight edge in TD rate and interception rate (TD/interception rate also).

Now, throw in the other numbers:

Rivers = 52 rushing yards, 0 rushing TDs, 38 sacks, 7 fumbles (4 lost)
Rodgers = 356 rushing yards, 4 rushing TDs, 31 sacks, 4 fumbles (1 lost)

You could easily argue that Rodgers has the better overall numbers.

AR should have 2 more TDs if JJ didnt get the dropsies on big plays!

[Joemailman]

AR should have 2 more TDs if JJ didnt get the dropsies on big plays!

A bit off topic here, but Greg Jennings has probably dropped more potential TD passes than JJ.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I remember both dropping two potential long TDs each.