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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
    but there weren't many QB's on the block last year. There are three legit 1st rounders coming out of the draft, the Skins are going to dump McNabb, and Vince Young is free. I doubt there is a high demmand for Flynn
    Matt Flynn is much, much more ready to be the starting quarterback for an effective NFL offense than Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Ryan Mallett, or Cameron Newton. Hell, Joe Webb is more ready to be the starting quarterback for an effective NFL offense than that lot. McNabb is old and busted, and Vince Young is a headcase. Getting a high third round pick for Flynn isn't totally outside the realm of possibility.
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    • #47
      IMO getting a high 3rd is a pipe dream this year............one IMO I'd jump at in a second though.

      Teams are valuing their picks more and more. We thought Spitz might pull something and it appeared teams only offered us a 6th. I honestly thought we might pull a 4th.

      Matt Cassell has a much higher pedigree than Flynn. The Whitehurst trade was almost laughable and quite a heist at the time for San Diego. I think Seattle felt desperate but boy did they get flamed for giving up what they did.
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #48
        Matt Flynn is a good quarter back. I think he'll win a lot of games in the NFL. If teams decide a high 3rd round pick is too rich for Matt Flynn, then they're making a mistake. I don't know if I'd even give him up for that.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #49
          I wouldn't trade him for less than a second. If no one bits then you get at less one more year with a decent backup QB. If he leaves for free agency after that its probably becuase some team is paying him to come in and try and start and in that case you will probably get a 3rd for him the following year if he plays half decent. Lets not be s quick to dumb players who have potential.
          Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            Teams are valuing their picks more and more. We thought Spitz might pull something and it appeared teams only offered us a 6th. I honestly thought we might pull a 4th..
            Jason Spitz? Come on, Bretskiz! The guy was/is/always will be a joker.

            You're talking about a backup guard versus a potential starting NFL QB. Teams take huge chances on QBs who have shown any sign that they can win (at whatever level) and grasp the NFL speed. The values there are completely different. No one in their right mind thought we would get a 4th rounder for Jason Spitz and using him to project Matt Flynn's trade value just doesn't work. Come on maaaaaan!!!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Two years as an NFL QB coach and now he is guaranteed to run a top 5 offense in the NFL?

              He might want to find a QB first.
              Just wait. There is a reason NFL teams wanted Harbaugh as a head coach.

              Ever watch Stanford play? Its probably the most NFL offense amongst BCS teams.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                Just wait. There is a reason NFL teams wanted Harbaugh as a head coach.

                Ever watch Stanford play? Its probably the most NFL offense amongst BCS teams.
                Perhaps. But look at the teams who wanted him. Stephen Ross cannot get out of his own way and has paid the Tuna for not working for him, in addition to bungling the coach negotiations. Elway and Denver are imploding and cannot even get A-list coaches to interview (I saw else where Capers is supposed to be a target but no on else has this) and San Francisco has a 20 something in charge who thought Mike Singletary was ready to be an NFL head coach. Stanford's interest is self explanatory, he can clearly coach in college, but the rock start status for the NFL openings was overdone, even if he does succeed.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                  Just wait. There is a reason NFL teams wanted Harbaugh as a head coach.

                  Ever watch Stanford play? Its probably the most NFL offense amongst BCS teams.
                  The problem is he'll be playing against NFL defenses, not Oregon State. It won't be easy for him and with the burden of expectations we could see a train wreck just as easily as success.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                    The problem is he'll be playing against NFL defenses, not Oregon State. It won't be easy for him and with the burden of expectations we could see a train wreck just as easily as success.

                    Oregon State has a first round dt. Some guys are born NFL head coaches -- the Harbaugh family has two.
                    BTW did you watch what Stanford did against VA Tech?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by rbaloha View Post
                      Oregon State has a first round dt. Some guys are born NFL head coaches -- the Harbaugh family has two.
                      BTW did you watch what Stanford did against VA Tech?

                      Way to channel your inner Partial.

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                      • #56
                        Trivia question. Name as many coaches as you can who made the transition from "successful college head coach" to "successful pro head coach".

                        I'll give you Jimmy Johnson and Bill Walsh to start with, and Walsh is borderline with only 2 years in college.
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                        • #57
                          It's ridiculous to consider Harbaugh a sure thing. Not many college coaches have the same success at the pro level.
                          Go PACK

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                            It's ridiculous to consider Harbaugh a sure thing. Not many college coaches have the same success at the pro level.
                            It's also ridiculous to dismiss him because some college coaches don't make it in the NFL.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                              Trivia question. Name as many coaches as you can who made the transition from "successful college head coach" to "successful pro head coach".

                              I'll give you Jimmy Johnson and Bill Walsh to start with, and Walsh is borderline with only 2 years in college.
                              does pete carroll count? he had a losing first season, but he did win a playoff game

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                                Trivia question. Name as many coaches as you can who made the transition from "successful college head coach" to "successful pro head coach".

                                I'll give you Jimmy Johnson and Bill Walsh to start with, and Walsh is borderline with only 2 years in college.
                                From your leading question its probably small. Harbaugh is an exception if the number is indeed small.

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