Ed Reed

[Badgerinmaine]

It doesn't look good. He jumped in the Mississippi River running away from police, and was last seen 15-20 feet from shore.

Not good at all: http://www.wwltv.com/news/Man-missin...113088204.html

[Tony Oday]

Ed Reed is good Collins is ours therefore Collins is better!

[packerbacker1234]

agreed, that why i laugh when nick collins makes the pro bowl because i don't even think he's close to their class, but then i have to remind myself that its just because those two are so much better then everyone else not that nick isn't good

Comparing Nick Collins to "the best safety turnover wise" to play the game just isn't fair. Nick Collins is a good, possibly "great" FS. However, you can't compare him to the best and then undervalue how good he is.

He isn't Ed Reed - NO ONE is. Ed Reed is a godsend back there. From key interceptions to returns for TDs. He's the charles woodson of last year, except... he does it year in and year out. I give Troy some credit for being all over and being great, but to me he is still a step back from Ed Reed. Troy is mor eimportant, overall, to his defense though. Ed Reed still has talent around him and a leader in Lewis to take charge when he is gone - but naturally you can't replace his production at the position. No one can, not even Troy, who has never been as prolific of a turnover machine as Reed is.

Reed is the measuring stick for all FS's really, and only Troy can step up to his impact level on the field. Collins, however, is still up there.

He averages about 50 tackles a season, 12 to 14 passes defended, 4 to 5 picks (over the last 3 years), and is as solid in run defense as any defensive back could be. There are few in the NFC that truly better than him, and few overall that are as good as Collins. However, there are two that are so far ahead of everyone else that it still makes collins look average. Reality is, Nick Collins is really damn good, but he's not "all time great" like Troy and Ed Reed.

[mmmdk]

Nick Collins is very good.

+ 1

[pbmax]

When you have 54 career INT's in 9 years, it's hard to believe there's much luck involved. Reed has a knack for being around the ball. That's the mark of a really great Safety.

Well, there are some other factors. He plays deep centerfield safety usually and is responsible for closing on those routes. He does not play up at the line or in constant motion (or blitz) like Polamalu. I am not saying he never goes anywhere else, but he is deep, more often that any other spot. Like Collins, with 50% fewer drops.

[MadtownPacker]

It doesn't look good. He jumped in the Mississippi River running away from police, and was last seen 15-20 feet from shore.

Well thats too fucking bad for him. For those of you chiming in with concern, why? He got what he had coming from the sound of it. Dont feel bad for Ed Reed either cuz if he was such a good big brother he could have used some of that $$$ to help get his bro fixed or at least buy him his own car and drug money. One less shit we gotta worry about flushing IMO.