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  • #16
    He had two drops; the first one was in a key spot and I think the second one was a 20-25yd ball downfield. I think the third one short hopped him if we are thinking of the same ball
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #17
      Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int Rating
      18 27 180 66.7 6.7 2 9 3 0 122.5

      Aaron and Starks Co-MVPs
      The Bottom Line:
      Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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      • #18
        Originally posted by red View Post
        how many perfectly thrown balls did jennings drop while he was 10 yards past the nearest defender?

        there was the one high hard pass that he didn't quite get his hands up quick enough for but should have caught anyways

        then there was the pass that hit the ground right before him

        and i think i remember one more pass towards him that he didn't get early one

        so did any of jennings "drops" directly take 7 points off the board?

        but we won't let facts mess up your dreams of letting JJ fuck you in the ass and give you a reach around
        At least Jones didn't turn it into an interception like Jennings did a couple weeks ago on a pass just as perfect when he was just as open.

        Jones has had way too many drops.
        Jennings has had way too many drops.
        Jennings is being paid like an elite receiver.
        Jones is not.

        Personally, I am more frustrated with Jennings' drops than I am with Jones'.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          At least Jones didn't turn it into an interception like Jennings did a couple weeks ago on a pass just as perfect when he was just as open.

          Jones has had way too many drops.
          Jennings has had way too many drops.
          Jennings is being paid like an elite receiver.
          Jones is not.

          Personally, I am more frustrated with Jennings' drops than I am with Jones'.
          Take away the INT in Detroit and Jennings' drops today were on balls thrown away from his body where he would have had to make a nice play on the ball. He should have caught them -- yes -- but I feel a bit better about it personally. Jones drops passes right in his bread basket more often than I've seen it happen with Jennings.

          Plus the one today before the half to potentially put us up huge was just such a momentum halter. I felt sick to my stomach after that.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            ... He also had another down field that was similar to JJ's drop...
            Can you get me a down and distance or time? I like to see if I can find the replay. Don't remember it.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              Starks proved today that we didn't need to trade for anybody for RB. We already had the solution.
              All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                Starks proved today that we didn't need to trade for anybody for RB. We already had the solution.
                it just took too damn long for them to figure it out.

                I'd also like to see a couple more good games out him before i believe

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  worse, imo, was letting the final 17 seconds run off when we could have run another play to set up a FG at the end of the first half.

                  yup. i mentioned his give-up, with a time-out, in the game thread. stupid!

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                  • #24
                    Jennings had the one on 3rd and 7 that he dropped. There was another one to him in the first half where he was open short on the right, Rodgers threw it high and hard, and it bounced off his hands. The Eagles nearly picked it off. There was also the one in the second half where he ran the comeback route on the left hashmarks and he trapped it. Wasn't a very good throw though.
                    Go PACK

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                    • #25
                      Jennings is a stud who drops the occasional ball--like most receivers. Jones is average and makes a bad play for every good play he makes.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #26
                        Could somebody count on his 23 carries how many times did Starks fall forward? He runs so hard that it almost always seems like he is falling forwards. McCarthy commented on Starks falling forward and it makes sense. If you consistently fall forward, you're gaining yards. At 6'2" just by falling forward Starks gains an extra 2 yards. On the other hand, I shook my head with disgust when I saw Jackson get hit in the thigh by a cornerback and fall sideways. The kid is never going to understand the tough yards aspect of the game. Starks has a future as a premier back if he gets his touches.
                        Last edited by OS PA; 01-10-2011, 12:41 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mission View Post
                          awesome game by the kid!

                          can't believe MM took him out for kuhn on that short yardage play. the guy knows how to get the tough yards.

                          MM's too cute for his own good sometimes.
                          Apparently it was smart to pull the hot runner for Kuhn, who if you are paying attention, has rarely actually gotten the short yardage when we needed it. Dumb call on MM, gotta keep going with the guy who has been getting the tough yards all game.

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                          • #28
                            The Eagles have their very on James Jones if anyone else didn't notice. Avant is a guy who makes some big time plays but also drops some easy ass balls. He has done it in other games I've seen the Eagles play too.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                              Apparently it was smart to pull the hot runner for Kuhn, who if you are paying attention, has rarely actually gotten the short yardage when we needed it. Dumb call on MM, gotta keep going with the guy who has been getting the tough yards all game.
                              I don't think the KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNN!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! chant results from a player not doining what's needed for the team, Chann. If you recall the Giants game, fans were chanting for him before the snap, sometimes when even the huddle hadn't broken.

                              You can fool all of the people some of the time, though, so, maybe you're right.

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                              • #30
                                If "you are paying attention," Kuhn has been an elite short yardage back this year. He was 10 for 12 converting on 3rd and less than 3 this year. That's #3 in the league.

                                From espn.com
                                Kuhn, in fact, has emerged as one of the most efficient running backs in the NFL this season. He has converted 25 first downs on 80 carries, including 8-of-9 on third-and-1, and has the league's second-best conversion rate (31.3) among running backs with at least 25 first downs.

                                Overall, Kuhn has 31 first downs on 94 touches this season. Last Sunday, he doubled his season scoring output with three touchdowns in the Packers' 45-17 victory over the New York Giants.

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