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  • Rookie Wall?

    Just a question I figured I'd pose to the rest of you as I was kicking it around in my own head:

    Are we due for a let-down because of the fabled "Rookie Wall"?

    Specifically, Brian Bulaga.

    Generally, when rookies play entire seasons, they seem to tire out at a certain point in the season where their vetern counterparts would not. I feel as if this is a legitimate concern for Bulaga, and maybe to a lesser point C.J. Wilson (though he has been more of a substitute). I'm worried we may see the wheels fall off against Abraham and the Falcons pass rush. And, to make matters worse, Julius Peppers could be waiting for Mr. Bulaga in the NFC Championship game.

    The only other player I could see that falls in to this category is Sam Shields. However, with his sheer athleticism I have to think he'll be ok.

    Thoughts?
    "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

  • #2
    How often does Abraham line up on the left?
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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    • #3
      Quarless admitted he already hit it. And I think Bulaga already did too. Now it's just a matter of battling through it. Which I think both are doing their best to do.
      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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      • #4
        Bulaga didn't started from the start of the season, so he's sort of on game #13 or 14 right now--which is about the same as a college season.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #5
          I guess we have to be worried about Bulaga...but how we can be more concerned about him than one of Clifton's legs just falling right off amazes me!
          --
          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            Bulaga didn't started from the start of the season, so he's sort of on game #13 or 14 right now--which is about the same as a college season.
            Isn't "the rookie wall" more of a "mental exhaustion" thing than a "physical exhaustion" thing? Since rookies have to spend so much time thinking about what, for veterans, is just muscle memory.
            </delurk>

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
              Isn't "the rookie wall" more of a "mental exhaustion" thing than a "physical exhaustion" thing? Since rookies have to spend so much time thinking about what, for veterans, is just muscle memory.
              While there is a physical aspect to it, I have to side with Lurker. It is more about mental breakdowns than anything else at this point.

              Also, I'm not sure how much they rotate Abraham, or even how much he lines up on the left, but I am a bit worried about serious letdown from Bulaga.

              I forgot all about Quarless. Clifton brings up another worry as well. If I'm not mistaken, he was completely abused on one play by Trent Cole (might have been Parker) where he showed signs of being the slow Clifton that he was at the beginning of the year.

              I believe more than any game we've had this year, that this one will be decided in the trenches.
              "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                Isn't "the rookie wall" more of a "mental exhaustion" thing than a "physical exhaustion" thing? Since rookies have to spend so much time thinking about what, for veterans, is just muscle memory.
                I have seen it described that way quite often. As was once pointed out, the rookies essentially have no break from when practice started for their last year in college. Many go from their college season to Bowl games and All Star games, then directly to intense training for the scouting combine. Then the draft and rookie camp followed by the mandatory and voluntary off season camps. Most stay where they were drafted and continue to work out. Then training camp, the NFL season and playoffs. Many have very little break from the mental pressure for 18 months, or so. Their first extended break from it comes after their rookie season, when things start to repeat rather than continue building. The second yesr of off season camps is a lot less stressful.

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                • #9
                  Time to contact Favre's massage coordinator. These rookies need stress relieving massage therapy!
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #10
                    BB seemed to hit it during the SF game, he was manhandled in both the SF&Det games, played sloppy in others after that but seemed to bounce back with a good game against the Giants. Hopefully he will continue to play well over our next 3 games.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by VermontPackFan View Post
                      BB seemed to hit it during the SF game, he was manhandled in both the SF&Det games, played sloppy in others after that but seemed to bounce back with a good game against the Giants. Hopefully he will continue to play well over our next 3 games.
                      McCarthy got that fixed:

                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #12
                        I actually think, especially for a lineman, that there is a signficant physical aspect to it. When I've heard former Wisconsin OL asked about some of the biggest differences between the NFL and NCAA ball, they all say that every week in the NFL they have to play against a stud, whereas in college, you really only faced 3 or 4 studs a year.

                        That has got to take it's toll physically.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                          Isn't "the rookie wall" more of a "mental exhaustion" thing than a "physical exhaustion" thing? Since rookies have to spend so much time thinking about what, for veterans, is just muscle memory.
                          For Greg Jennings in 2006, it was both. His legs were banged up, and he was making mental mistakes he hadn't made earlier in the season. He ran a wrong route against the Vikings in week 16 which resulted in a Pick 6. McCarthy then gave him The last game off.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #14
                            i think the "wall" is something that usually hits them midseason...after all the otas, preseason games, and stress of making the team and playing in real games that have been game-planned for. at this point i think they're running on endorphins and really aren't rookie-like anymore.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              For Greg Jennings in 2006, it was both. His legs were banged up, and he was making mental mistakes he hadn't made earlier in the season. He ran a wrong route against the Vikings in week 16 which resulted in a Pick 6. McCarthy then gave him The last game off.
                              He shouldn't feel bad. He only ran one of something like 300 bad routes that resulted in picks.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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