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    Oates: Packers' Hodge deserves to start in middle
    TOM OATES 608-252-6172
    toates@madison.com
    General manager Ted Thompson lapsed directly into NFL-speak when asked if rookie Abdul Hodge had impressed him enough to start at linebacker for the Green Bay Packers.

    "We'll play the best guys that we have," Thompson told reporters Monday. "If he happens to be one of the best guys, we'd play him."

    Good, because the time has come for the Packers to put their money where their cliche is.

    With the first exhibition game coming up Saturday, the three best linebackers in the Packers' training camp are Nick Barnett, A.J. Hawk and Abdul Hodge. Problem is, only two of those three - Barnett at middle linebacker and Hawk at weakside linebacker - are starting.

    It's time to start all three.

    The Packers should move Barnett to the strong side and start Hodge in the middle, and they should do it now so they can give Hodge as much time to learn as they can. True, that would give them two rookies - Hawk and Hodge - at linebacker, but if the Packers aren't worried about starting two rookie guards, why would they obsess over starting two rookie linebackers?

    Barnett has started the last three seasons at middle linebacker and Hawk, the first-round draft pick from Ohio State, was handed a starting job the minute the Packers called his name in April. However, Hodge, the third-round pick from Iowa, has been stuck behind Barnett on the depth chart while the Packers start bargain-basement free agent Ben Taylor on the strong side.

    Taylor has been the same dependable-but-invisible player he was in Cleveland, where he started 16 games in 2005 without a sack, an interception, a forced fumble or a recovered fumble. Meanwhile, Hodge demonstrated in the team's scrimmage Saturday what many had seen throughout camp: He's a tackling machine who plays bigger and faster than he is.

    "He looks just like he did at Iowa, running around and making tackles," Thompson said. "He's instinctive, he's aggressive, he's a downhill guy and he's an active football player. He likes to play the game. We're very pleased."

    Hopefully, the Packers are pleased enough to make a bold move and start Hodge in the middle. It only makes sense.

    First, Hodge is every bit as NFL-ready as Hawk, having matched Hawk tackle-for-tackle during their equally impressive Big Ten Conference careers. Yes, he struggles in pass coverage - what rookie linebacker doesn't? - but he can stuff the run and make big plays, two things the Packers sorely need from their linebackers.

    "He'll do a great job with the transition," Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said last week. "We've had numerous guys go on (to the NFL) and make the adjustment very well and there's no doubt in my mind Abdul will do the same."

    Second, Hodge is a natural-born middle linebacker. Ferentz doesn't claim to know anything about the Packers' personnel situation, but he knows Hodge, a three-year starter at Iowa, and he knows the NFL, having been the offensive line coach for the Cleveland/Baltimore franchise for six years. He also knows linebackers, having coached for an NFL team that had Ray Lewis at middle, or mike, linebacker.

    "I'm not saying he's Ray Lewis, but to me Ray Lewis is a mike and Abdul (is a mike)," Ferentz said. "In my opinion, he's a box middle linebacker. ... He's an explosive, tough player, he can play the position, he's got great instincts and he's a great student of the game. I'll be shocked if he doesn't have a great career. I'll just be shocked."

    Thompson, a linebacker in his playing days, said it's not difficult for linebackers to move around and play different spots in the Packers' defense.

    "There's some versatility there," he said. "If you're athletic and you have instincts, you can play."

    Hodge could probably move to the outside and start this year, but that wouldn't make sense. He already has the instincts to play the middle and might not be as effective outside with his lack of top-end speed. Meanwhile, Barnett has been good but not great in the middle and might be better outside, where he can use his speed.

    Thompson said it's coach Mike McCarthy's call who starts at linebacker, but it's a no-brainer. Hodge could be the Packers' middle linebacker for the next 10 years, so why wait another day to put him there?

  • #2
    Hasn't everyone on this board been saying this for at least a week? It sounds awfully familiar to me.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by MJZiggy
      Hasn't everyone on this board been saying this for at least a week? It sounds awfully familiar to me.
      i think a lot of us were saying it the second they drafted hodge

      and now we can breath easy since hes put his money where our mouths were

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      • #4
        Hodge would immediately improve the Packers run defense... he's so much more instinctive, and much tougher than Barnett will ever be.

        Granted Hodge is a liability in coverage, and teams would certainly scheme to match him up in coverage when ever they could; but, conversely, the Packers could sheme to protect him as well.

        On run downs, Hodge should be at MLB.

        In the nickel: Barnett and Hawk
        In the dime: Barnett; with Poppinga on the field as a rover/rusher in certain situations. Hawk simply isn't a pass rusher - at least off the edge. Poppinga is much more suited to that role.

        The Packers, amazingly enough, actually have some flexibility and options with their LB'ing corp.
        wist

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MJZiggy
          Hasn't everyone on this board been saying this for at least a week? It sounds awfully familiar to me.
          True, but will MM actually make the change and do it?

          Barnett would need time to adjust to the outside, and Hodge needs to be in the middle from the start. The change should be made soon if it is to be done.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Badgepack
            Originally posted by MJZiggy
            Hasn't everyone on this board been saying this for at least a week? It sounds awfully familiar to me.
            True, but will MM actually make the change and do it?

            Barnett would need time to adjust to the outside, and Hodge needs to be in the middle from the start. The change should be made soon if it is to be done.
            Not necessarily. My guess is Barnett is cross-trained in all the positions now after being in the system for a year.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Badgepack
              Originally posted by MJZiggy
              Hasn't everyone on this board been saying this for at least a week? It sounds awfully familiar to me.
              True, but will MM actually make the change and do it?

              Barnett would need time to adjust to the outside, and Hodge needs to be in the middle from the start. The change should be made soon if it is to be done.
              Your point is well made.

              MM and the coach's will have to assess Abdul Hodge in real game action, but let him go now. This man is a player.

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              • #8
                barnett was a safety in college that was moved to OLB at oregon. that was and is his natural position. we drafted him and turned him into a MLB because he was by far the best we had at the time. nick already knows the position, he was one of the best in college at oLB when he came out , so there wouldn't be much learning involved. its definately nothing like how much hodge would have to relearn if he moved outside

                but why do that? hodge is the pure mean bad ass MLB that all teams look for

                and wist was right on, you start hodge in the middle, and on passing downs you bring him out. it really doesn't seem that complicated, or that big of a deal

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                • #9
                  When if ever have we started 2 rookies at LB, maybe not even us but has any team ever done that??

                  I have no problem doing that but we should expect a decent amount of Rookie "moments" during the regular season.

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                  • #10
                    I would like to see him in some more action than a family night game before I annoint hi as the second comming of Ray Lewis. HOWEVER I have said from the begining I would like to see him out there but lets have them play it out in camp. Taylor still has the job and its his to lose. I would LOVE to see just a bunch of rotation in the LB corp to keep offenses guessing and our guys fresh. You rotate D linemen why not LBs?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The_Dude
                      When if ever have we started 2 rookies at LB, maybe not even us but has any team ever done that??

                      I have no problem doing that but we should expect a decent amount of Rookie "moments" during the regular season.
                      Seattle did it last year with Lofa Tatupu and LeRoy Hill. They made the Super Bowl and those rookies were huge factors. Tatupu was great and Hill had like 7 sacks.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tony Oday
                        I would like to see him in some more action than a family night game before I annoint hi as the second comming of Ray Lewis.
                        Its a funny thing with linebackers, so long as they act tough or hit hard, the assumption is that they are all-around good players.

                        Hodge may turn out to be the real deal, but before determining that it will be nice to see what he can do against a real opponent trying their best to take advantage of him, rather than against an offense and players that he already knows very well. Do his strengths outweigh his weaknesses?

                        Its a little early to dismiss what Taylor can provide too. He is a veteran coming off a 110+ tackle season. No, he doesn't provide turnovers, but he seemingly provides reliability.

                        Same with Poppinga. He had a lot to learn last year. Let's see how much he has learned.

                        However, it does look like there is the potential for a very nice group at that position. Hopefully they will tunout to be as good during real games as some think they already are.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The_Dude
                          When if ever have we started 2 rookies at LB, maybe not even us but has any team ever done that??

                          I have no problem doing that but we should expect a decent amount of Rookie "moments" during the regular season.
                          I mentioned this in a different thread. It was in 1978, I believe, that we started two rookies: John Anderson at SLB, and Michael Hunt at MLB.
                          "What's one more torpedo in a sinking ship?"
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by K-town
                            Originally posted by The_Dude
                            When if ever have we started 2 rookies at LB, maybe not even us but has any team ever done that??

                            I have no problem doing that but we should expect a decent amount of Rookie "moments" during the regular season.
                            I mentioned this in a different thread. It was in 1978, I believe, that we started two rookies: John Anderson at SLB, and Michael Hunt at MLB.
                            LOL

                            mike hunt

                            lol

                            i think i've met him before to tell the truth

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                            • #15
                              Barnett will be PISSED if he gets moved to OLB. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do it because of that, but we better know what we have in Hodge BEFORE we go moving everyone around.

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