Could have been epic blunders

[BobDobbs]

Sam Shields running it is a concern. Especially because after the Nick Collins pick to end the Bears game and Tramon's pick to end the Eagles game, both those guys ran. You'd think think that would have been covered in the film room. Tramon looked like he thought he had been touched down. So much adrenaline after the play i guess its hard to shut it down.

I think people are tripping way to hard about Raji. He flipped the ball at the end because he knew he had scored. Leon Lett never saw Don Bebe coming. Did it occur to anyone that Raji knew where he was on the field and could see Hanie running at him from the other side. If Hanie would have been a yard closer he just would have tucked the ball. Not a big deal.

Besides he just immortalized himself in Packers-Bears lore. That image of him holding the ball out is iconic. And the nasty dance in the endzone! Awesome. On the replays they were showing him from above the hips. It was like an Elvis TV appearance or something. I'm glad he did it. The brother's got swag and so does our defense.

Let's play the Super Bowl!

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I like Raji's swag, Bob.

[wootah]

Sam Shields running it is a concern.

Anyone saw his interview on packers.com on the run after the INT? "My thing was going to the TD, but everybody was saying 'Get down', but , you know, in my mind, I was trying to score so, you know." I'm pretty sure the staff will make it clear to him that it was a stupid thing to do. Sam will then write it down and study it after practice. He'll be fine.

For Raji, to his defense, he first checked whether there was no WR on the other side. I still think it's an avoidable risky play with that score in a game of that magnitude. Just tuck it away and score, and THEN use those hips for celebratory purposes all you like. He must be a beast during the carioca drills.

[bobblehead]

Sam Shields running it is a concern. Especially because after the Nick Collins pick to end the Bears game and Tramon's pick to end the Eagles game, both those guys ran. You'd think think that would have been covered in the film room. Tramon looked like he thought he had been touched down. So much adrenaline after the play i guess its hard to shut it down.

I think people are tripping way to hard about Raji. He flipped the ball at the end because he knew he had scored. Leon Lett never saw Don Bebe coming. Did it occur to anyone that Raji knew where he was on the field and could see Hanie running at him from the other side. If Hanie would have been a yard closer he just would have tucked the ball. Not a big deal.

Besides he just immortalized himself in Packers-Bears lore. That image of him holding the ball out is iconic. And the nasty dance in the endzone! Awesome. On the replays they were showing him from above the hips. It was like an Elvis TV appearance or something. I'm glad he did it. The brother's got swag and so does our defense.

Let's play the Super Bowl!

So, when he was ten yards from the endzone he was so sure nothing could go wrong that he held it out like a kid with an ice cream cone? Sorry, I have zero use for this. And he did not "flip" it at the end, it was knocked out of his hands. And no, it did not occur to me that he is so smart he could calculate hanie's speed (a player he likely never saw run full out) so well that he knew the guy could not get to him in time. That he had it calculated so perfectly that Hanie got to the ball exactly 1/2 yard into the endzone.

[Pugger]

As long as we are somewhat near the topic, I don't blame DD for allowing the ball to ricochet off his foot four feet into the air into the hands of Lance Briggs. Part of the beauty of this game is the shape of the ball; in the right hands it throws with the rifled precision of a bullet, and when it hits the ground or bounces off of body parts it is anybody's guess where it will end up. In Atlanta the Jennings fumble popped right into the DBack's hands while he was in full stride. In Chicago it flies up into the waiting hands of Briggs. Agony-Joy-Football!

If we are talking about freaky plays how about the fumble by Jones in the bare game in week 3 and how the ball stayed in bounds instead of going out of bounds like it usually does??

[LEWCWA]

Haha. Whatever. I would worry more about protection schemes than the lame points made in this post.

No Tarlem- I was refering to this guy. Anyhow, this is why I choose to not post around here much anymore.


I am a huge proponent of having fun while playing, but you have to play the game the right way all the time. Like Vince said (paraphrase here) "We will chase unachievable perfection, in the process we will acheive excellence". This is huge to me.

My biggest expertise these days is in girls fastpitch softball, as both my daughters play competitive travel ball. One is a freshman this year and was put on the Varsity team recently. Anyhow she spent the last few months worried about making varsity. All I told her, was that all the girls still playing at this age and level are good, the difference is in the offseason work put in and the small details. So if details are lame, have fun watching you kids play JV ball or whatever they do their whole career!

[mraynrand]

No Tarlem- I was refering to this guy. Anyhow, this is why I choose to not post around here much anymore.

Someone calling your post lame keeps you from posting? It's an interesting thread and you made good points. Keep posting.

[Joemailman]

If we are talking about freaky plays how about the fumble by Jones in the bare game in week 3 and how the ball stayed in bounds instead of going out of bounds like it usually does??

Not really freaky. If Jones had been carrying the ball in his outside arm as he should have been doing, the ball would have fallen out of bounds. It was bad play, not bad luck.

[LEWCWA]

Someone calling your post lame keeps you from posting? It's an interesting thread and you made good points. Keep posting.

Actually, this is pretty minor, but it seems everytime you post something around here you have to defend against things like this and personal attacks. (like your an idiot, DF, etc..., or things like this) no reasoning why this shit doesn't matter, its just lame. Anyhow life is way too short, I'm done with this.

[mraynrand]

Actually, this is pretty minor, but it seems everytime you post something around here you have to defend against things like this and personal attacks. (like your an idiot, DF, etc..., or things like this) no reasoning why this shit doesn't matter, its just lame. Anyhow life is way too short, I'm done with this.

OK, see ya around the block

[swede]

Actually, this is pretty minor, but it seems everytime you post something around here you have to defend against things like this and personal attacks. (like your an idiot, DF, etc..., or things like this) no reasoning why this shit doesn't matter, its just lame. Anyhow life is way too short, I'm done with this.

What if some people tell you that your posts are interesting and your avatar is pretty?

Because, honestly, your posts are interesting and your avatar is really pretty and if you ever find a site that doesn't allow a certain amount of nastiness it often loses personality as well.

You put your stuff out there and if you get three people calling you an idiot and one person liking it you can call it a good day on Packerrats.

[LEWCWA]

I have no problem with a difference in opinion.....if you disagree, there must be a reason, give it and discuss it. I disagree with plenty around here. Either I ignore it or disagree with a reason. I'm sure some don't think these things matter much in the grand scheme of things, and if you don't let us know why. Not "lame", thats no way to go through life son!

[vince]

Anyone else concerned with the poor decisions made at crucial times that could have derailed this thing in epic fashion? Starting with Tramon's int(need to get down), Raji's early celebration(very close to being a fumble), them Shields not getting down to end the game yesterday. I hope the whole team is getting an earful about being smart, because those great plays all could have turned a great ride into epic failure that we would have had to watch for the rest of our lives.....

Tramon thought he was down in the endzone. It's a mistake, but not a bad one.
Shields is a rookie going on instincts. His instincts were to take it to the house. A mistake, yes, but those are instincts I'll take all day long.
Raji showboating and not protecting the ball at the 10-yard line. Yeah that's a mistake that should be corrected hard.

I don't see a trend in this area that is upsetting. In fact, hopefully guys keep making game winning plays to "correct." Another showboating episode before the whistle and that could be a problem, but there's no concern at all with Williams or Shields IMO.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ted Thompson is good.

[Joemailman]

Those things need to be addressed, but there is a long tradition of defensive players doing foolish things when they get the ball in their hands. At least Sam didn't try a lateral.