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    Well, it's been mentioned on and off through a few posts, but nothing really talked about. Here's a list of possible coaches we could loose. Feel free to add anyone of importance you think I might of missed.

    Assistant Head Coach/Inside Linebackers – Winston Moss
    Defensive Coordinator – Dom Capers
    Defensive Line – Mike Trgovac
    Outside Linebackers – Kevin Greene
    Secondary - Corner backs – Joe Whitt, Jr.
    Special Teams Coordinator – Shawn Slocum

    Winston Moss was promoted to assistant head coach in order to prevent teams from grabbing him. He'd have to be offered a head coaching position in order for him to leave. I think.. right?

    Dom Capers is old as dirt, I doubt he'll want to rebuild a team. He'd have to head somewhere where there's already an offense in place, and perhaps even a coordinator he can work with. I honestly don't see him going anywhere. More specifically, I don't see him wanting to build yet another franchise and those are the only franchises out there that have coaching vacancies. Why move when you have the best shot of winning rings here? Especially when winning those rings could put you in the record books for being the best D coach of this generation.

    Mike Trgovac is, well, I don't know. All I know is people talk about him being good. He used to be a DC over at Carolina and I guess I could see him going someplace else for that job again. I honestly don't know enough about him to make an educated call.

    Kevin Greene's linebackers have been playing out of their mind good and it's obvious that it's because of the coaching. I don't see a lot of other guys out there who could turn Zombo and Walden into the starters they've been and he's been the main coach for Clay Mathews, front runner DPOY. I can see him getting snatched up. This is only his second year coaching though, so we may get to keep him for a little bit longer until he learns the ropes, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to pick him up.

    Joe Whitt, Jr. has done an excellent job with the secondary, bringing up Tramon and Sam. I'm sure he relied heavily on Woodson and Harris to help teach these kids and they were definitely great mentors, but he's the one who pulled them all together. I don't know a ton about him though, or even if teams have been mentioning his name. He's just someone I thought I should mention.

    Finally there's Slocum. He's come under heavy heavy pressure this year and I will be the first to admit that he's done a pretty decent job in the second half of the season. I think he's done so well that he bought himself another year. I'm not sure about that though. He's on this list for a completely different reason than the other guys. I think he may be let go. Now, I've said in the past that "I believed once Slocum got fired that the ST would magically get better, that's how much I blame him." I just want everyone to know my bias toward this guy.

    One thing I'd like to add, which I briefly mentioned with Winston Moss, is that for these guys to leave, they'd have to be offered a higher position. For Dom Capers to leave, he'd have to be offered a HC job. For Green to leave, a DC job and so on. If it's just a lateral move, then they have to abide by their contracts. Also, I'm not positive, but I don't think anyone can talk to our coaches while we're still in the playoffs. So just because we haven't seen any action on our guys doesn't mean it's not coming after the season.

    Hopefully this will provide a bit of chatter for the next friggin 8 days, 20 hours and 40 minutes (give or take.)
    - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

  • #2
    Tennessee could be an interesting spot for Dom.
    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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    • #3
      Interesting comment from Trgovac the other day when asked about the possibility of a DC job again. Basically, he said he quit as DC when he realized that he wasn't paying attention to his kids even when he was with them because he was so preoccupied with his job. He decided while his kids were in school they needed more of his attention. He said that hasn't changed, and his daughter is still in HS. Plus, he really likes Green Bay.

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      • #4
        Trgovic is probably going to be offered the D-coordinator position with the Broncos but he doesn't know if he wants to move since he has a daughter that is a junior in high school that he doesn't want to move. So he might be available in a couple of years.

        Dom isn't going any where. he is one of the highest paid assistants in the game. He is old and I don't think he want to rebuild anything.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ND72 View Post
          Tennessee could be an interesting spot for Dom.
          Wasn't Dom's comment that while he would like another shot at a head coaching job, it has to be the right situation? I don't think a team that's as much of a mess as Tennessee would be the sort of situation Dom would want to jump into. Something like the Dallas job, after Wade got fired, or the San Diego Job, if Norv gets canned would be more his speed.

          Specifically, I think, he would prefer to land as head coach somewhere where the offensive situation is pretty settled, but the defense needs work.
          Last edited by Lurker64; 01-27-2011, 09:51 PM.
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          • #6
            If a coaches contract is up, he is free to leave for any job he wants. However, traditionally they don't make lateral moves because loyalty is valued, and an assistant who makes lateral moves on his own soon won't have any offers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Smeefers View Post

              One thing I'd like to add, which I briefly mentioned with Winston Moss, is that for these guys to leave, they'd have to be offered a higher position. For Dom Capers to leave, he'd have to be offered a HC job. For Green to leave, a DC job and so on. If it's just a lateral move, then they have to abide by their contracts. Also, I'm not positive, but I don't think anyone can talk to our coaches while we're still in the playoffs. So just because we haven't seen any action on our guys doesn't mean it's not coming after the season.
              Packers can deny teams the right to interview their assistants even if it is for a coordinator position. Last year MM denied the Bears the right to interview Tom Clements for their vacant OC position.

              I believe teams can ask to interview Packer coaches this week because the Packers don't have a game this week. Of course, I'm sure the answer would be no.
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                If a coaches contract is up, he is free to leave for any job he wants. However, traditionally they don't make lateral moves because loyalty is valued, and an assistant who makes lateral moves on his own soon won't have any offers.
                It's also hard to imagine any assistants making lateral moves after a superbowl appearance, win or lose. I mean, it's not like you're going to find an obviously preferable situation out there.
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                • #9
                  Hard to know what motivates a guy the most. Capers could be at a point where the grind of a HC position isn't so appealing, or he could feel that he still has something to prove as a HC. One thing for certain, when he has a chance to look at the players he will have available next year, he has to lick his defensive coordinator chops over the thought of what a defensive unit he might have! What will mean the most to him right now is anyone's guess.

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                  • #10
                    Is coaching special teams considered a move up for a position coach? I mean, could you keep a Keven Greene or Joe Whitt by shitcanning Slocum and giving the other guy that job?

                    BTW - Smeefers, welcome to the board. Good posts. But I gotta say, I laugh every time I see your name, cuz it looks like a cross between "Smithers" and "Queef."
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Mike Trgovac

                      I think this guy is the most likely to be offered other positions.....possibly in Phily or Denver. On our side is he has kids in high school so the timing might be right and he likes it here

                      I could care less about Winston Moss; he seems to get some token interviews but I'd sure love to see DOM get a nice raise and be named asst coach along with the DC.


                      Greene has been great as a LB coach but he's not going to get any DC offers yet

                      Whitt, I can see that guy being a DC soon.

                      I've always said Clements is way overqualified for the position he has and it's outstanding we shitcanned the Bears request to interview him for OC
                      Winning the Super Bowl and somehow losing Slouch Slocum would be a dream come true; I think he's keeping his job though.
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Is coaching special teams considered a move up for a position coach? I mean, could you keep a Keven Greene or Joe Whitt by shitcanning Slocum and giving the other guy that job?

                        BTW - Smeefers, welcome to the board. Good posts. But I gotta say, I laugh every time I see your name, cuz it looks like a cross between "Smithers" and "Queef."

                        No, IMO coaching ST is kind of the starter spot. Remember when Nolan Cromwell was a ST coach and after a few yrs he moved up to secondary in Seattle. Wonder if the dude is still coaching now ?
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #13
                          Smeefers........awesome thread idea
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            Mike Trgovac

                            I think this guy is the most likely to be offered other positions.....possibly in Phily or Denver. On our side is he has kids in high school so the timing might be right and he likes it here
                            Denver's coaching staff is set. Unless Fox fires someone he just hired to make room, they won't take Trgo.
                            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                            • #15
                              Could you have imagined this thread two months ago?
                              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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