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JH you are a dumbass for talking stupid shit but I agree, what is the point of this place if you cant dream big or sink low? With that said I think a dynasty is gonna be harder and harder to have in today's NFL. For all you know the Packers end up like Marino's Dolphins going up against one of the best teams of their decade and never get back. I dont think so but a dynasty seems unlikely for any team not just this one.
Warren Buffet got rich buying and selling stocks. He researched, found companies the thought were undervalued based on the real value rather than the actual price. The actual price of teh Packers is a 10-6 team that hasn't won the SB. Bob McGinn knows a little something about value though. He's done more research on SB winning teams and dynasties than everyone in this thread combined and he looks at the actual value of what's happening. Dominant young talent, check. Likely coaching stability (capers/MM), check. Organizational stability (TT/Murphy), check. LIke Warren Buffet, Bob McGinn is buying now. Do either of them know if any investment is going to pay off? No. Dynasties are tough, but the Packers have all the incredients of one. That's exciting. That's what we're saying. That's what McGinn is saying, I think anyway.
1) MM and/or TT retire or something like that
2) Somehow the new collective bargaining agreement makes it impossible for us to keep the core of the team together.
Oh, and 3) Rodgers is so prone to concussions or some other ailment he can't be our QB of the future.
#3 above has me concerned. Many athletes have had concussion significantly impact their careers. The first concussion didn't worry me too much, but a second one so soon did. Running is a big part of Rodgers game, and he gets hit in the pocket more than Favre, who perfected the ability to throw while drifting backward away from rushing linemen. Rodgers is likely to take a few big hits every year.
Palmer wants out of Cinnci. The guy has been synonomous with that ball club for how long? Now, I'm not suggesting the Bengals are in danger of becoming a Dynasty, but it highlights my point. We fans just don't know what makes these players tic. Why Palmer wants out isn't stipulated, but, I for one, didn't see this coming.
The Bungles have been a dysfunctional mess for a long time. Palmer finally saying enough isn't a surprise to me at all. There's been season-long questions about his ability and he just needs to leave.
I do see your point, but this wasn't the best example to illustrate it.
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
Warren Buffet got rich buying and selling stocks. He researched, found companies the thought were undervalued based on the real value rather than the actual price. The actual price of teh Packers is a 10-6 team that hasn't won the SB. Bob McGinn knows a little something about value though. He's done more research on SB winning teams and dynasties than everyone in this thread combined and he looks at the actual value of what's happening. Dominant young talent, check. Likely coaching stability (capers/MM), check. Organizational stability (TT/Murphy), check. LIke Warren Buffet, Bob McGinn is buying now. Do either of them know if any investment is going to pay off? No. Dynasties are tough, but the Packers have all the incredients of one. That's exciting. That's what we're saying. That's what McGinn is saying, I think anyway.
Just a quick correction for the finance people here. Warren Buffet got rich buying and HOLDING stocks. He is a huge advocate of NOT playing the buy and sell game. Take that lesson with you since you are young. Get into good mutual funds and don't think you are smarter than the market.
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
Hopefully CMIII puts the 'Die Nasty' into 'Dynasty.' Go Claymaker!
[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
Just a quick correction for the finance people here. Warren Buffet got rich buying and HOLDING stocks. He is a huge advocate of NOT playing the buy and sell game. Take that lesson with you since you are young. Get into good mutual funds and don't think you are smarter than the market.
I have Fidelity. Our company does actually. Clark Howard (I don't really listen to him but a buddy of mine pointed me to him and I gave it a try) Anyway, Clark Howard really likes Fidelity. They have funds in 5 year increments of when you're going to retire. I split mine between the two that are closed to when I expect to retire (age 65 cuz I want to stay more agressive, can always retire earlier). It's really been working out well so far. I have my first year of retirement saved, woo hoo!!
... Posts ... personally singling out others is unnecessary. Are there some who have been wrong? Yes. Are there some who I personally believe hoped the Packers and TT would fail just to prove themselves right? Yes. Everybody is on the bandwagon now though. Better to just leave it alone.
werd
edits in quote are pbmax's
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Nobody's counting chickens here either. Bob McGinn wasn't. The most optimistic optimist in this thread wasn't. We're looking at talent, coaching stability and organizational stability and the fact that they're in the SB this year with everything going wrong and getting excited about where the arrows are pointed.
Suggesting people are counting chickens from eggs is an age old way to call someone unwise. It's funny how wrong all of the wise people around here tend to be. I just figured I'd point that out in the new age way of just saying it.
I think I came off a little more pissed than I meant to.
werder
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I agree. The irony is that the 'da bers' skit, in which the guys talk about an "8 peat, minimum" - was pretty on the ball, wasn't it? 6 championships with a 2 year hiatus for Jordan. I guess these finer points are lost on those quick with 'flaccid' insults. It's fun to speculate and hope for multiple championships, but at the same time experience tells you it's unlikely. That's why when and if it happens it's incredibly sweet ....
I have Fidelity. Our company does actually. Clark Howard (I don't really listen to him but a buddy of mine pointed me to him and I gave it a try) Anyway, Clark Howard really likes Fidelity. They have funds in 5 year increments of when you're going to retire. I split mine between the two that are closed to when I expect to retire (age 65 cuz I want to stay more agressive, can always retire earlier). It's really been working out well so far. I have my first year of retirement saved, woo hoo!!
Any of those 20xx funds are great for people with 401k's or self managed IRA's. Stick with it and listen to dave ramsey as well.
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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