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    While I am still standing with what I've said about McCarthy, especially his play calling....the man has gotten us to a super bowl. The things I do like about him though is his development of a football team. So yes, I have had to try to pull my size 15 out of my mouth....but some things, play calling, I still worry about with him. But, for some reason, McCarthy seems like different coach right now, especially since the Detroit loss.
    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

  • #2
    he seems to have grown ; earlier this year I thought he was top 10. Now I'd probably put him top 5
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    • #3
      My confidence has definitely grown with MM since the NE game. Detroit was my absolute lowest confidence point. I wanted him gone. I'll admit it if no one (Scott) will remind me.

      I still have my concerns but I've also said he could never take us to a SB and I was wrong. A stupid 4th quarter blunder that potentially costs us the SB might get me right back on that box. Hopefully he wins and I'll concede 100%.

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      • #4
        I'm not really sure MM has coached any differently the last 5 games. The injury situation has stabilized, and Starks has given the Packers some semblance of a running game.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          I have always said that M3 is actually a great coach, but maybe not such a great game manager. By that I mean that prep, gameplan, player development are all top-notch, but play calling and general clock management/ challenge flag management not that great.

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          • #6
            Anyone else notice how this new board will sometimes repeat a word if it is at the end of the line? Lots of posts have the same word at the end of the line and beginning of the next. Just sayin...

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            • #7
              I'm almost 100% warmed up to him, but what still haunts me is his 2nd half adjustments/play calling. To many times this year he's come out and effed things up and cost us either the lead, or worse, the game. Of our 6 losses this year, we probably could of won 3 more had he not tinkered with what was working. Just win MM....just win
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              Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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              • #8
                It's up to Ted now. That Steelers team is awesome, well coached and disciplined.

                M3 is a fantastic head coach that sometimes scews up the play calling. As of now, though, it's the depth of this team that will make the difference. If these guys actually win it's TT that we should all whorship.

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                • #9
                  Many analysts, most of whom have either played or coached in the NFL, have given great praise to MM's playcalling. Yet the fans look at the playcalling as the one thing holding MM back. Is it lofty expectations on the fan's part, or is it low standards on the analyst's part?
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                  • #10
                    I'll put my foot in my mouth too. I call it game planning not play calling, but I thought MM was too dependent on the long pass and then when Flynn almost beat NE with nothing but the short throw, I think they changed. Even the greatest coach in NFL history (don't know who it was) but even he surely went too far in the wrong direction a time or two.

                    So maybe MM learned a lesson by how it wasn't working or maybe the run game opened up the offense. I don't know exactly what happened, but I was diving off cliffs after the Det game and bitching up a storm about us throwing deep way too often and it causing too many incompletions and sacks that stifled drives.

                    To mine and ND's credit though, I think both of us were bitching about the exesssive down field passing and it's just stopped. To MM's credit, maybe with no run game he was forced into some of that.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                      While I am still standing with what I've said about McCarthy, especially his play calling....the man has gotten us to a super bowl. The things I do like about him though is his development of a football team. So yes, I have had to try to pull my size 15 out of my mouth....but some things, play calling, I still worry about with him. But, for some reason, McCarthy seems like different coach right now, especially since the Detroit loss.
                      Weve all had to eat humble pie once in awhile so its nice to hear people man up and admit to mistakes. But you know what? It doesnt matter anymore! We are 4 days away from playing in the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No place better to eat humble pie than Dallas I say!!!

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                      • #12
                        There are things I like about MM and things that drive me nuts. The good thing is he's learning and has the ship going the right way. Lost in the success, which I find as a huge key this yr, is finally finally finally getting the penalties under control.

                        Lots of coaches struggle w/ time management which is still his weakness. Having a great QB can cover up some of that and hopefully he continues to grow in that area.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by VegasPackFan View Post
                          Anyone else notice how this new board will sometimes repeat a word if it is at the end of the line? Lots of posts have the same word at the end of the line and beginning of the next. Just sayin...
                          resize your screen and I think it goes away...at least i haven't noticed it much since.
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                          • #14
                            The big change in MM this year for me is his sense of the future. I feel like he made a conscious effort to send messages to the future teams who would be watching the tape of his team. He would set a play up to work weeks before he ran it. We ran that stupid 15 yard backshoulder throw for weeks until guys finally started to cheat on it. Then Greg Jennings burned Vonte Davis for 86 yards on it. He did that stupid full back hand-off to Kuhn all season with little or no success until he turned it into a trick play where Jackson would have walked into the endzone had he not bobbled the pitch back (against the bears week 17?). He FORCED every defensive coordinator we'll ever play for the next two years to never sell out against in short yardage because there isn't a situation on Earth where McCarthy won't call a big play (last play of Lions game).
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                            • #15
                              3, 4 or 5 and out, with 3-5 mins remaining in the game, you won't ever see McCarthy try eat up clock with a "big play" or "trick play, hardly even with playaction. This season it's been the defense stepping up in close games and hence the ultra conservative play calling with any lead but especially with close leads. However, the playoff game versus Falcons told another story - it was peddle to the meddle play calling. I love that gem of a game! Made me proud!
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