A little on A.J. Hawk's future...

[SavedByGrace]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/115244309.html

Just for the record, I really hope we sign him back and dump Chillar.

Packers 31, Steelers 17

[Kiwon]

Well, the good news for Hawk is that the injuries allowed him to get more playing time and he could show what he could do.

$10 million for one season is a lot of coin. I'm guessing that his only chance to stay with the Packers might be to sign a new contact for less money.

[Tony Oday]

Both sides knew he would never make the $10 million next year. He plays every game and is a team leader...lock him up.

[gbgary]

he's been great this year. he's there every game. he needs to be resigned and one of the others let go.

[denverYooper]

Both sides knew he would never make the $10 million next year. He plays every game and is a team leader...lock him up.

This.

[mraynrand]

he's been great this year. he's there every game. he needs to be resigned and one of the others let go.

that

[Lurker64]

he's been great this year. he's there every game. he needs to be resigned and one of the others let go.

Excepting Bishop (who just signed an extension) Barnett would probably glean the most compensation in a trade. I say we get rid of him.

[Smidgeon]

Excepting Bishop (who just signed an extension) Barnett would probably glean the most compensation in a trade. I say we get rid of him.

What do you think Barnett could get? A 2? 3? 4?

[Tony Oday]

What do you think Barnett could get? A 2? 3? 4?

5th he's coming off an injury isnt that a bad thing?

[HarveyWallbangers]

He's coming off a major injury (his second in three years), he's getting old, and he makes good ching. I agree with Tony. Probably something like a 5th round pick.

[Patler]

There have been several articles the last week about Hawk as the signal caller on defense. Each article had several comments from players and coaches about it. The underlying impression I get is that Hawk does a better job of it than Barnett.

One article pointed out that since Hawk took over, the instances of "miscommunication" on defense have almost disappeared completely. The article noted that in the second year of Capers' reign you would expect mistakes to decrease, but noted that Hawk has to get some credit for the almost complete disappearance of such things.

Players talked about the calming influence Hawk has.

One of the coaches mentioned that Hawk is almost perfect in those situation when he has had to "do it on his own" because the call didn't get in in time. Apparently on defense, with the shifting offenses, etc. it happens somewhat often that the headset shuts off before the final defensive calls are made.

Keeping Hawk in his present role might be a very, very good thing for the defense. He has been criticized in the past even by coaches for being too much of a perfectionist, and not trusting instincts to sometimes ad lib and make a play when he sees it in front of him. That may be true, but his perfectionism has maybe made him a top notch player at directing the defense in all the pre-snap adjustments that have to happen.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Oh how the tune around here has changed since the beginning of the season about Hawk.

*says the guy who's wearing his Hawk jersey to work in the Twin Cities today*

[Brandon494]

Oh how the tune around here has changed since the beginning of the season about Hawk.

*says the guy who's wearing his Hawk jersey to work in the Twin Cities today*

My view hasn't changed. He's a player who's average at everything and great at nothing. I was one of the posters who believe Bishop was the better of the two which showed this year. I do like him over Barnett at this stage of their careers so I hope we do resign him but he is far from a Pro Bowl in my eyes.

[Tony Oday]

My view hasn't changed. He's a player who's average at everything and great at nothing. I was one of the posters who believe Bishop was the better of the two which showed this year. I do like him over Barnett at this stage of their careers so I hope we do resign him but he is far from a Pro Bowl in my eyes.

As per usual I disagree 100% I think the reason they are both playing well is Bishop is able to take more chances with Hawk being the steady rock so Bishop can be the hammer. Just my opinion.

[Smidgeon]

My view hasn't changed. He's a player who's average at everything and great at nothing. I was one of the posters who believe Bishop was the better of the two which showed this year. I do like him over Barnett at this stage of their careers so I hope we do resign him but he is far from a Pro Bowl in my eyes.

But if Hawk and Bishop play different positions, why does it matter that one's better than the other? It's like saying Nick Collins is better than Charlie Peprah. Sure, that's difficult to argue against, but Collins and Peprah don't compete against each other for playing time. Hawk is the thumper and Barnett/Bishop the cleanup. Two different positions.