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  • Slocum's Future

    I'm still feeling the glow, and I don't mean to harsh anyone's buzz, but listening to Rodgers on Letterman talk about how he feared the kick-off return after the Pack got that FG at the end confirmed for me that we need a change at Special Teams.

    Masthay's development is certainly something to cheer, but I wonder how much of that is Masthay and how much is Slocum. I do know the consistent inability of this team to cover kicks has grown to the point of absurdity. Time for a change. Slocum can get his ring, which will no doubt help him find another job.

    But no more.

  • #2
    I think every Packer fan had a sinking feeling when Crosby kicked the FG. Two minutes left, less than a TD lead, and the Packers were kicking off. A scenario that has had gut wrenching results in the past far too often.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Noodle View Post

      Masthay's development is certainly something to cheer, but I wonder how much of that is Masthay and how much is Slocum.
      Seeing as how our previous punters/scapegoats Ryan and Kapinos have gone on to find jobs with other teams, I'm guessing it's more Masthay and less Slocum.
      "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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      • #4
        They shouldn't have cut Ryan. Kapinos is just as bad now as he was with the Pack. His inside the 20 rate has improved a bit, but that's it.

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        • #5
          My feelings would be hurt if we found a new guy, but I think Slocum bought himself another year with the improvements we've had since the first half of the season. Someone had to coach them not to commit penalties. At this point, I'm willing to give him another year and I think that's what will happen.
          - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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          • #6
            pretty tough IMO to let a coach go after you win the Big Show........but if MM did it he'd have my blessing
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              pretty tough IMO to let a coach go after you win the Big Show........but if MM did it he'd have my blessing
              The solution is, of course, to bring in another special teams coach. You can keep Slocum on as a lucky charm, but get somebody else to fix the kickoff coverage.
              </delurk>

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                The solution is, of course, to bring in another special teams coach. You can keep Slocum on as a lucky charm, but get somebody else to fix the kickoff coverage.
                I see your point...but we need 'ACTUAL' return players to help our return game. I second Bretsky, as you probably can't change coaches on a SB winning team, and why should TT unless their contract is up & they're lured to another team? No! Go get a PR & a KR through draft or FA 'cos you won't find the "fix it" return men on Packers current roster.
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                • #9
                  Finding a return man is one thing but coaching the team to cover a kick return is another. The PR coverage improved dramatically but KR coverage always seemed dicey at best. As Rodgers pointed out in his Letterman interview the only reason Pittsburg didn't have good field position was because of the punch some idiot threw.
                  C.H.U.D.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                    Finding a return man is one thing but coaching the team to cover a kick return is another. The PR coverage improved dramatically but KR coverage always seemed dicey at best. As Rodgers pointed out in his Letterman interview the only reason Pittsburg didn't have good field position was because of the punch some idiot threw.
                    I agree. I am much less concerned about who returns kicks or punts for the Packers than I am concerned about the Packers kickoff coverage. The punt team seems to have come around, but kickoff coverage is still poor.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      I agree. I am much less concerned about who returns kicks or punts for the Packers than I am concerned about the Packers kickoff coverage. The punt team seems to have come around, but kickoff coverage is still poor.
                      I'm with Snoopy!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mmmdk View Post
                        I see your point...but we need 'ACTUAL' return players to help our return game. I second Bretsky, as you probably can't change coaches on a SB winning team, and why should TT unless their contract is up & they're lured to another team? No! Go get a PR & a KR through draft or FA 'cos you won't find the "fix it" return men on Packers current roster.
                        I'm really more concerned about the fact that the kickoff coverage team regularly allows the other team to start between the 30 and 40 yardline (and has given up several killer returns) than the fact that our return units rarely give us great field position.
                        </delurk>

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                          I'm really more concerned about the fact that the kickoff coverage team regularly allows the other team to start between the 30 and 40 yardline (and has given up several killer returns) than the fact that our return units rarely give us great field position.
                          Like Rodgers said: "still motivated". Your concern is legit in the quest for more Packers Championships in the very near future! Keep it coming.
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                          • #14
                            I know injuries didn't help the ST units, but they largely sucked on coverage and returns before that.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              I think every Packer fan had a sinking feeling when Crosby kicked the FG. Two minutes left, less than a TD lead, and the Packers were kicking off. A scenario that has had gut wrenching results in the past far too often.

                              If Slocum taught Crabtree to goad guys into punching him, I'd say give him a contract extension.

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