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  • #16
    Originally posted by superfan View Post
    Matt Hasselbeck v2.0. Not sure it's worth getting less than a 3rd for him since a Rodgers injury could (would) be a season killer without a decent backup.
    +1

    To me it would be a natural thing to have a heart to heart with Matt Flynn...Coach, GM, and player all together...and ask him if he's willing to learn, back up, step in and be the guy if needed, and then re-evaluate in two or three years. Or, does he want a chance to play somewhere else now where he can compete for a starting job.

    But I get the impression that the way of doing "business" in the NFL doesn't allow for such frank exchanges. You trade, release, or keep players without their permission and that's that.

    But I agree that without a good high draft pick he he is worth far more to us as a quality back up.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by swede View Post
      +1

      To me it would be a natural thing to have a heart to heart with Matt Flynn...Coach, GM, and player all together...and ask him if he's willing to learn, back up, step in and be the guy if needed, and then re-evaluate in two or three years. Or, does he want a chance to play somewhere else now where he can compete for a starting job.

      But I get the impression that the way of doing "business" in the NFL doesn't allow for such frank exchanges. You trade, release, or keep players without their permission and that's that.

      But I agree that without a good high draft pick he he is worth far more to us as a quality back up.
      Flynn has already been in GB for three years. I suspect that he feels he has already put in his time and is ready to prove himself. His showing against NE, while only one game, would seem to support that. I can't see that an offer to put in a few more years as apprentice would have any attraction for him.

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      • #18
        So what would be a realistic asking price for Mr. Matt Flynn?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          So what would be a realistic asking price for Mr. Matt Flynn?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by channtheman View Post
            How about we trade Flynn and James Jones to Arizona for Larry Fitzgerald. :0
            That would be an awesome trade for us but we have a solid core of WR's. It's best that TT tries to improve our position in the trench's or on the OL and then DL. We cannot have enough depth at CB.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
              The problem with this is that it's risky to franchise your backup quarterback in an attempt to trade him. The franchise quarterback number is like $17,000,000 and how many teams are going to be willing to give up a draft pick and seventeen million dollars for Matt Flynn?

              He has more value as a tradeable asset now, since he's cheap.
              The Patriots franchised Matt Cassell before they traded him to the chiefs and they didn't have to pay the big payday. I think it can be written into the trade that the QB has to renegotiate the contract with the new team.

              Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
              I stand by my noodle comment. That pass to jones was 25 yards in the air and was a bit of a rainbow at that. He has a weak arm. I still think he has the tools to become a good quarterback, but arm strength is also important and Matt Flynn has not thrown bullets. I don't care if it's 5 yards or 40 yards, I've never seen him zip on in there.

              I disagree that there's not a lot of QB's in the league that have an arm as strong as Rodgers. What I will say is that I don't think there's are many, if any who are as strong as him and as accurate as him. The dude can throw a bullet 35 yards down the field and hit a dime.
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              • #22
                I don't think his arm is "weak." I think he just has a different delivery than what we've seen from our QBs for the past 2 decades.

                I also don't think he can be compared to Cassell, though, as the later had a lot more experience than Flynn does when he was traded.

                I would take a high 4th or better for him right now.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                  The Patriots franchised Matt Cassell before they traded him to the chiefs and they didn't have to pay the big payday. I think it can be written into the trade that the QB has to renegotiate the contract with the new team.
                  Typically the acquiring team negotiates a long-term contract with the player, and the value of the franchise contract is subsumed in a much more valuable contract.

                  That worked for Cassel, who had an entire season as a starter to base the trade and contract on. Will anyone be willing to do that for Flynn, who may have only one start to show? I doubt it. I think there would be very few trade partners for Flynn with a franchise contract to deal with. By 2012 that could be a $20 million contract.

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                  • #24
                    Anyone else not really want to trade him? A 3rd or 4th is nice but he could be called upon to win us a game at some point. He's a critical backup and could be the difference between a superbowl or not. I guess what I'm saying is that I don't think we're going to get much of a backup to take his place.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                      That would be an awesome trade for us but we have a solid core of WR's. It's best that TT tries to improve our position in the trench's or on the OL and then DL. We cannot have enough depth at CB.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Typically the acquiring team negotiates a long-term contract with the player, and the value of the franchise contract is subsumed in a much more valuable contract.

                        That worked for Cassel, who had an entire season as a starter to base the trade and contract on. Will anyone be willing to do that for Flynn, who may have only one start to show? I doubt it. I think there would be very few trade partners for Flynn with a franchise contract to deal with. By 2012 that could be a $20 million contract.
                        The other thing to point out is that, after franchising Cassel, the Patriots kind of panicked and dumped him (and a valuable defensive player with several productive years remaining) for a second round pick because they absolutely couldn't afford to actually pay Cassel the amount indicated by the franchise tag.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                          How about we trade Flynn and James Jones to Arizona for Larry Fitzgerald. :0
                          Yes, for sure the Cardinals would jump all over that: a former 7th round pick QB with one start under his belt and a receiver who tends to drop the ball for a Pro Bowl wide receiver!
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            Yes, for sure the Cardinals would jump all over that: a former 7th round pick QB with one start under his belt and a receiver who tends to drop the ball for a Pro Bowl wide receiver!
                            You have to take that suggestion in the spirit it was made

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                            • #29
                              So, the guy has 150% more starting time than Rodgers, when the latter became the guy. He has been coached up by he same team that coached up the last super bowl mvp. I can't remember, did Rodgers have a win before they dumped Bert?

                              As for the guy's arm? If the guy beats out Brohm and is good enough to back up Rodgers, that speaks a diferent language.

                              20 million insurance on an otherwise lost season is realistic to me. A 4th for Flynn? Jeez, I'd like you to finanz my home.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                                So, the guy has 150% more starting time than Rodgers, when the latter became the guy. He has been coached up by he same team that coached up the last super bowl mvp. I can't remember, did Rodgers have a win before they dumped Bert?

                                As for the guy's arm? If the guy beats out Brohm and is good enough to back up Rodgers, that speaks a diferent language.

                                20 million insurance on an otherwise lost season is realistic to me. A 4th for Flynn? Jeez, I'd like you to finanz my home.

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