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  • #76
    I think those who think we garner a second rounder for Matt Flynn are either drunk on Kool Aide or have highjacked Madtowns goodies and are using it often.

    Cassell got a second. The Seahawks were raked over the coals on the Whitehurst trade and another team will not allow that to occur. They must have really loved the guy but that trade was a media laugher. When we traded Matt Hasslebeck we received at the time what was equivalent to a second round draft pick as it allowed us to move up seven spots in the draft and live the Reynolds nightmare.

    It's a bad year to have leverage to trade a QB as there are plenty of options out there for the QB teams to look at in .....Kolb/McNabb, Young, Flynn, and the draft class

    I think most teams offer a fourth and we balk at that. I think it's possible teams might offer a third but I'm almost doubtful of that.
    Last edited by Bretsky; 02-15-2011, 12:31 AM.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      I think most teams offer a fourth and we balk at that. I think it's possible teams might offer a third but I'm almost doubtful of that.
      Agreed. Yeah, I think everyone can jump on board with the #2 pick because it's too good to be true. Flynn isn't a game changing QB. We don't have a future top 15 QB sitting on our bench. I'd be happy with a mid round 3rd, but at that price I'm not sure we'd let him go.
      - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        I think those who think we garner a second rounder for Matt Flynn are either drunk on Kool Aide or have highjacked Madtowns goodies and are using it often.

        Cassell got a second. The Seahawks were raked over the coals on the Whitehurst trade and another team will not allow that to occur. They must have really loved the guy but that trade was a media laugher. When we traded Matt Hasslebeck we received at the time what was equivalent to a second round draft pick as it allowed us to move up seven spots in the draft and live the Reynolds nightmare.

        It's a bad year to have leverage to trade a QB as there are plenty of options out there for the QB teams to look at in .....Kolb/McNabb, Young, Flynn, and the draft class

        I think most teams offer a fourth and we balk at that. I think it's possible teams might offer a third but I'm almost doubtful of that.
        I agree with this, especially if there is no QB school and Harrell doesn't get the chance to further develop. I'd rather hang onto Flynn.
        Go PACK

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        • #79
          Dan Pompei of National Football Post reported the 2nd round pick. It makes no sense whatsoever IMO for the Packers to deal Flynn for a 4th rounder. If/when he signs with a team as a free agent, he'll very likely sign with someone who wants him to start. If he plays a lot the Packers would probably get a third round compensatory pick. Maybe it's a fourth if he flounders but even at that the Packers would keep him for the year. The Packers dealing him for a third rounder is debatable, as they could very well get a third rounder as a compensatory pick and still retain his services for antoher year.

          If he's to be moved, it could well require a second rounder from the Packers perspective. A team looking at a QB in the 2nd round may well look at Flynn as the more attractive option. This is a weak QB draft.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by vince View Post
            Dan Pompei of National Football Post reported the 2nd round pick. It makes no sense whatsoever IMO for the Packers to deal Flynn for a 4th rounder. If/when he signs with a team as a free agent, he'll very likely sign with someone who wants him to start. If he plays a lot the Packers would probably get a third round compensatory pick. Maybe it's a fourth if he flounders but even at that the Packers would keep him for the year. The Packers dealing him for a third rounder is debatable, as they could very well get a third rounder as a compensatory pick and still retain his services for antoher year.

            If he's to be moved, it could well require a second rounder from the Packers perspective. A team looking at a QB in the 2nd round may well look at Flynn as the more attractive option. This is a weak QB draft.
            Once again, you have conVinced me.
            [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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            • #81
              Until there is a new CBA all the talk of trading for a draft pick this year is bunk right? If anything is done with the CBA before the draft it will be shocking.
              Last edited by Freak Out; 02-15-2011, 12:11 PM.
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
                Until there is a new CBA all the talk of trading for a draft pick this year is bunk right? If anything is done with the CBA before the draft it will be shocking.
                My understanding is actually that teams can freely trade players and picks until March 4, but not after (assuming no CBA).
                </delurk>

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                  My understanding is actually that teams can freely trade players and picks until March 4, but not after (assuming no CBA).
                  I'm pretty sure they can trade draft picks during the draft but not trade players.
                  No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                    Agreed. Yeah, I think everyone can jump on board with the #2 pick because it's too good to be true. Flynn isn't a game changing QB. We don't have a future top 15 QB sitting on our bench. I'd be happy with a mid round 3rd, but at that price I'm not sure we'd let him go.
                    You think a 2nd is the going rate for game changing, top 15 QBs? The last guy to be traded I can think of who fit that description was Jay Cutler, who cost a starting QB, two first round picks, and a 3rd round pick.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
                      You think a 2nd is the going rate for game changing, top 15 QBs? The last guy to be traded I can think of who fit that description was Jay Cutler, who cost a starting QB, two first round picks, and a 3rd round pick.
                      What could we get for a Top 32 QB using that scale? A 1st round and a 3rd?

                      I'm sold!!

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by mission View Post
                        What could we get for a Top 32 QB using that scale? A 1st round and a 3rd?

                        I'm sold!!
                        Here's another angle- What could we get for Rodgers using that scale?!?! Give me 6 first rounders and I'll send him out with a bow on his head.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
                          Here's another angle- What could we get for Rodgers using that scale?!?! Give me 6 first rounders and I'll send him out with a bow on his head.
                          Well, it'd have to be six consecutive years of first round picks. Which--if Rodgers is as good as he appears--would be low round picks at the end of the first round after a year or so. I guess two is better than one, but I'd rather have championships.
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
                            Here's another angle- What could we get for Rodgers using that scale?!?! Give me 6 first rounders and I'll send him out with a bow on his head.
                            Not in a million years would I trade Rodgers for anything.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                              Not in a million years would I trade Rodgers for anything.
                              What about 6 firsts, 6 seconds, and a 6 pack of Miller High Life?

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                              • #90
                                I would trade Rodgers for any team's full complement of non-compensatory draft picks every year for the next decade. Nothing less.
                                </delurk>

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