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  • #16
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    Wow, I know that skin hates Bigby, but I honestly don't discount him yet. Let me see if he is healthy. (I am assuming we resign him cheap).

    When a QB goes back to pass I'd far prefer the consistency and intelligence of Peprah to Bigby.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #17
      The Indy pre-season game was where I first noticed Burnett's ball-hawking skills. There was a play in the game where GB had a corner blitz called. Garcon was lined up wide on the same side as the slot receiver. The CB on that side was lined up over the the slot receiver and just as the ball was being snapped Burnett came running up from his deep safety spot to about linebacker depth. The CB blitzed to the inside of the slot receiver and Burnett bumped the slot receiver as he came off the line and released him to the inside. You can see Burnett reading Manning's eyes and Manning thought he was going to trail the slot receiver across the middle so he tried to throw it to Garcon who was running a curl at about 8-10 yards deep on the outside. Burnett took about one or two steps to the inside with the slot receiver and then broke to the outside and jumped Garcon's route to make the interception.

      I don't think Garcon was Burnett's responsibility on the play because a safety was lined up over Garcon at about a 10 yard depth prior to the snap. It looks as though Burnett was supposed to take the slot receiver acoss the middle but because he was watching Manning and saw the play developing he changed directions and jumped the route for the pick.

      I saw it argued that Burnett just got lucky on the play because he played the coverage incorrectly and ended up in the right place. I could be wrong but I watched that play a number of times and everything he did looked purely intentional. It looked like a heads up, savvy play by Burnett to me. You could see by the look on Manning's face after the play that he sure as heck wasn't expecting Burnett to be there. Since the safety was playing so far off of Garcon he thought he had an easy pitch and catch for a quick 10 yards.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        When a QB goes back to pass I'd far prefer the consistency and intelligence of Peprah to Bigby.
        You don't think Bigby is intelligent?
        I think his inconsistencies have been injury related, more than anything.

        But, I doubt it matters. I really do not expect the Packer to even make an offer to him. Collins, Burnett, Peprah, Bush/another fills the roster anyway. (Remember the name, "Anthony Levine".)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          You don't think Bigby is intelligent?
          I think his inconsistencies have been injury related, more than anything.

          But, I doubt it matters. I really do not expect the Packer to even make an offer to him. Collins, Burnett, Peprah, Bush/another fills the roster anyway. (Remember the name, "Anthony Levine".)

          Honestly, not really

          Poor Anthony Levine.........if anybody knows him........warn him to run......the curse of Atlas Herrion lives on !!
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Anyone ever hear Nick Collins talk? Intelligence is not his game. Kind of an anomaly at that position.

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            • #21
              I'm talking football smart

              Nick Collins sounds like a genius compared to Torence Marshall.....blast from the past
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #22
                MB is a younger version of Darren Sharper. Why else was he assigned #42? Its worked well for Collins .

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  You don't think Bigby is intelligent?
                  I think his inconsistencies have been injury related, more than anything.

                  But, I doubt it matters. I really do not expect the Packer to even make an offer to him. Collins, Burnett, Peprah, Bush/another fills the roster anyway. (Remember the name, "Anthony Levine".)
                  Why so high on Levine?
                  No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                    Why so high on Levine?
                    Not so high, just a feeling that he has a chance to stick. As Bretsky pointed out, call it my "Atlas Herrion intuition."

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                    • #25
                      You know, I see a lot of people discussing Morgan Burnett, Charlie Peprah, and Atari Bigby up above. But the truth of the matter is, going into next year we only have 1 out of those 3 coming back for sure next year. I'd love to see the Pack let Bigby go and sign Peprah to a longer deal. But who knows, maybe he now thinks he's a proven player who's worth bigger money and will want a deal that will cause TT to balk. There's a possibility we could be down to just MB next year.

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                      • #26
                        Ted Thompson would not have traded away a 4th round pick to move up and grab Burnett if they were satisfied with Bigby. And that was before Bigby had another injury-filled season. If they lose Peprah to FA, possibly they bring back Bigby for depth. I doubt it though. They'll have Derrick Martin, a really good ST player, and Levine coming back next year.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                          I'm talking football smart

                          Nick Collins sounds like a genius compared to Torence Marshall.....blast from the past
                          Sorry, off topic a bit, but when I hear the name "Torrence Marshall" it brings back dark memories of posters toying with a screwy poster at JSO in 2005 (I think) . As I remember it; it was vicious & malicious. Shame on them.
                          PackerRats Thompson D. Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2019,
                          PackerRats Thompson D. Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2018,
                          PackerRats Pick'Em 2016-17 Champ + Packers year Survival Football Champ 2017,
                          Rats Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2013,
                          Ratz Survival Football Champ 2012,
                          PackerRats1 Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2006.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            When a QB goes back to pass I'd far prefer the consistency and intelligence of Peprah to Bigby.
                            Remember that next time Mike Wallace goes by him twice in the Super Bowl. And that was not the only instance in the playoffs where he was late in covering. I love him as a backup. Much less excited as the presumptive starter. I have the same concern with Bigby.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by esoxx View Post
                              Anyone ever hear Nick Collins talk? Intelligence is not his game. Kind of an anomaly at that position.
                              Yes, because as McCarthy and Thompson have shown, public speaking is the key measure of intelligence.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Remember that next time Mike Wallace goes by him twice in the Super Bowl. And that was not the only instance in the playoffs where he was late in covering. I love him as a backup. Much less excited as the presumptive starter. I have the same concern with Bigby.
                                x2

                                Originally posted by pbmax
                                Yes, because as McCarthy and Thompson have shown, public speaking is the key measure of intelligence.
                                x4

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