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  • DEAR NFL....as a Packer Fan....I say.......""""""""LOCK EM OUT """"""""""""

    I'm all for it

    There absolutely WILL be a NFL Season next year; you can take that to the bank.
    The owners have too much to lose and the players do as well. This will get done

    So now I'm going into selfish mode.

    It's hard for me to believe there is a team that would benefit from a lockout more than the Green Bay Packers.

    This team is built through the draft; we're not looking at any expensive free agents. We're absolutely worried about losing several valuable players for the Super Bowl Run to free agency.

    Jenkins is going to get money
    Colledge seems like the guy who is going to look for the best money out there....aka....Mike Wahle
    And the line is long

    An extended lockout is going to hurt teams the teams the most who are looking to make a splash in free agency. And it's going to hurt the free agents looking to strike it rich.

    Who would be hurt the least.........teams like Green Bay and Pittsburgh....who build through the draft and hope they don't lose too much this offseason.

    I say..........LOCK EM OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Interesting article today in JS that relates to the above. Here it is



    Green Bay - I wrote about the Packers' prospective free agents in the paper today, but some of it didn't make it there or online, so I wanted to provide a little more insight into how those players view things.

    Most of them are confident in their ability to earn big contracts somewhere and are looking to be included among the group of players who have had their contracts extended during the season. Some of them will be rewarded and some will be disappointed.

    Here's the full list of free agents under the normal rules of free agency:

    Unrestricted: K Mason Crosby, S Atari Bigby, S Charlie Peprah, RB John Kuhn, RB Brandon Jackson, FB Korey Hall, LB Matt Wilhelm, OL Jason Spitz, OG Daryn Colledge, DE Cullen Jenkins, WR James Jones, S Anthony Smith.

    Exclusive rights: WR Brett Swain, TE Spencer Havner.

    “I understand it’s a business,” said Jenkins, whose agents had some talks with the Packers during the season but never got close to a deal. “Hopefully, there’s not a lockout and even if there is not, we can get something done. Hopefully, we can get it ironed out quickly.”

    But Jenkins also touched on the reality that if nothing has been done by now, there's a good chance it won't be done at all and he'll be on the free agent market. Jenkins said he's prepared to have to hit the market and see what's out there.

    The Packers will have until midnight March 3 to have exclusive negotiating rights with their unrestricted players. After that, the free agents will have an opportunity to shop themselves around to the rest of the 31 teams.

    The only qualification is that there must be a new collective bargaining agreement in place for free agency to occur. If it expires on March 3, there will be a “lockout”, which essentially puts a halt to all NFL activity except the 2011 draft.

    Most players will know what team they’ll be with when the lockout ends, but free agents will spend the entire time unsure where they’re going to wind up.

    “You just have to see where the process takes you,” Crosby said. “I think I’ve been building up to this through a process and each step like this is part of it.

    “I want to be a Packer. We’ll see how everything works out. It’s going to be interesting.”

    Colledge, Jackson, Crosby and Jenkins all feel they have proved themselves worthy of substantial contracts and are hoping the Packers see things the same way.

    “I felt like I had a great year,” Colledge said. “I was excited that I was healthy enough to play all 16 games and then four more. I feel like I played my best football.”

    Said Jackson: “All year long I felt that I was good enough to be the starter. I had the potential to be the starting running back. It just didn’t turn out that way.”

    Added Crosby: “I think we have a very stable operation and I was feeling very comfortable. The second half everything was automatic with the exception of one hiccup on a short one. Everything else was great. I was 90% the second half. I felt great with how I was kicking.”

    In addition to the free agents, the Packers will also have to deal linebacker A.J. Hawk, who has a $10 million base salary next year, which the Packers will either renegotiate into a long-term deal or take off the books by releasing him.

    There’s also the issue of whether to keep both him and Barnett, which would create a logjam at inside linebacker with Desmond Bishop and Brandon Chillar under contract. Barnett has two years left and is due $6 million next season.

    “I think it will be hard to deny my hunger going into training camp,” said Barnett, who is close to having pins removed from his injured wrist after spending most of the season on injured reserve. “I’ve got to play in a Super Bowl. The linebacker situation will be handled.”

    As for players like Peprah, Jones, Bigby, Kuhn and Spitz, the market bears many uncertainties. Who will get an offer he didn’t expect? Who won’t get any offers? Who will come back for a shot at being a repeat champion?

    Those are questions that will be answered when the Super Bowl dust settles.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    Unrestricted:
    K Mason Crosby---He sounds like he's looking to get paid. I think TT extends him to the ire of a few here in PR
    S Atari Bigby--------My gut tells me somebody pays him and he goes; we keep him if he comes very cheap and others are not too interested
    S Charlie Peprah---Reliable, assignment sure, and intelligent. TT keeps this guy
    RB John Kuhn-------He really wants to stay. He's too much a Packer person. I think TT extends him
    RB Brandon Jackson--No strong feeling. He sounds like he wants a shot to start. He's a solid #3 back and blocker. If a team makes a strong pitch he's gone but gut says nobody will
    FB Korey Hall-----------Time for this one to move on and the three fullback monster might be gone
    LB Matt Wilhelm--------Goodbye
    OL Jason Spitz----------No clue; if Colledge leaves I could see TT signing him as insurance and a nice wildcard backup. If somebody throws big money at him he's gone
    OG Daryn Colledge----He goes to whoever gives him the most money. Lockout be alive...it would hurt Colledge. With a long lockout a one yr deal would not surprise me.
    DE Cullen Jenkins------Thanks for the good memories Cullen. Best of luck with your new team at about 89 mil per year
    WR James Jones--------I just don't know....but....gut says TT extends him rather than letting him go for nothing,
    S Anthony Smith--------Goodbye


    As an exercise it would be interesting to rate all of this in order of most to least likely to stay
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      No way Jenkins gets 89 mil per year. You heard it here first.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        Unrestricted:
        K Mason Crosby---Take him out back and beat him with a hose then say SEE YA!
        S Atari Bigby--------Cheap guy because he is hurt every other game
        S Charlie Peprah---Wont keep because I think he might actually get one of those "are you kidding me?!" contracts
        RB John Kuhn-------He really wants to stay. He's too much a Packer person. I think TT extends him...ditto
        RB Brandon Jackson--bye
        FB Korey Hall-----------...dunno...I like him on ST but is that enough?
        LB Matt Wilhelm--------Goodbye
        OL Jason Spitz----------No clue
        OG Daryn Colledge----Bye he goes for big money somewhere else.
        DE Cullen Jenkins------Thanks for the good memories Cullen. Best of luck with your new team at about 8-9 mil per year(thanks for the 89 per year Bretsky!)...I would add though, "do you want another title for a little less?"
        WR James Jones--------See you bye Furgie II
        S Anthony Smith--------no idea
        Last edited by Tony Oday; 02-09-2011, 09:12 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          No way Jenkins gets 89 mil per year. You heard it here first.
          lol with Skeletor in Oakland you NEVER know
          Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            No way Jenkins gets 89 mil per year. You heard it here first.
            OOOOOOPS

            I meant to say 8-9 MIL per year....lol
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              OOOOOOPS

              I meant to say 8-9 MIL per year....lol
              I still heard he wasn't getting 89 million there first. And you may be right.
              [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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              • #8
                nasty meeting a couple days ago where reportedly the owners ended the meeting after the players made an offer they considered to be silly.....draft is coming...then could be a long offseason
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  git 'er done!

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                  • #10
                    Apparently, one of the baselines for the negotiations is that the NFL will grow from a current $9 billion business to a $20 billion business in the next 10 to 12 years.

                    I wonder how realistic these expectations are? Where will all this additional money come from? The government is drowning in debt, the population is getting older and retiring, government entitlements are growing, unemployment, mortgage defaults, and personal bankruptcies are at recent record highs.

                    Yeah, the overall economy will eventually recover, but how much and how fast? Enough to double the value of the whole NFL in just ten years?

                    The teams are located in urban centers, some in cities and states that are near bankruptcy. Count me as a skeptic as to whether things will improve enough for the NFL to meet their growth expectations.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kiwon View Post
                      Apparently, one of the baselines for the negotiations is that the NFL will grow from a current $9 billion business to a $20 billion business in the next 10 to 12 years.

                      I wonder how realistic these expectations are? Where will all this additional money come from?
                      From some form of "pay per view". Ten years ago, the NFL started building toward a model in which we will all have to pay to watch or listen, in some way or another. There was an interview with a league marketing guy a couple years ago. I have wondered if he was fired for doing it, or if it was intentional as an ice-breaker of sorts. Basically, he said it is not fair that one fan pays $100 to watch at the stadium, and another sits at home and watches for free. As he asked, shouldn't it be worth a couple dollars for any fan to watch or listen? He even mentioned pay per listen radio.

                      They are heading that way. I suspect more and more games will go to the NFL Network, and subscription radio will start getting games. As the momentum builds, the cost to have it will increase. Currently, cable providers pay relatively low fees for NFLN. That will change.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        From some form of "pay per view". Ten years ago, the NFL started building toward a model in which we will all have to pay to watch or listen, in some way or another. There was an interview with a league marketing guy a couple years ago. I have wondered if he was fired for doing it, or if it was intentional as an ice-breaker of sorts. Basically, he said it is not fair that one fan pays $100 to watch at the stadium, and another sits at home and watches for free. As he asked, shouldn't it be worth a couple dollars for any fan to watch or listen? He even mentioned pay per listen radio.

                        They are heading that way. I suspect more and more games will go to the NFL Network, and subscription radio will start getting games. As the momentum builds, the cost to have it will increase. Currently, cable providers pay relatively low fees for NFLN. That will change.
                        The subscription model already exists everywhere except the US because of Direct TV's exclusive contract for the "Sunday Ticket". If you're outside of the US you can buy the whole season and watch live, as well as have access to re-watch every game all season long.

                        I got the "dumbed down" US version called "NFL Rewind" this year. They charge like $40.00 which allows you to watch any game about 24 hours after it's over, and then whenever you want after that until the reg season is over. Yes you gotta pay extra if you want the same deal for the playoffs. I opted out of the playoffs.
                        "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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                        • #13
                          I hope they're not counting on my money, because I'm canceling DirecTV this year.
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            From some form of "pay per view". Ten years ago, the NFL started building toward a model in which we will all have to pay to watch or listen, in some way or another. There was an interview with a league marketing guy a couple years ago. I have wondered if he was fired for doing it, or if it was intentional as an ice-breaker of sorts. Basically, he said it is not fair that one fan pays $100 to watch at the stadium, and another sits at home and watches for free. As he asked, shouldn't it be worth a couple dollars for any fan to watch or listen? He even mentioned pay per listen radio.

                            They are heading that way. I suspect more and more games will go to the NFL Network, and subscription radio will start getting games. As the momentum builds, the cost to have it will increase. Currently, cable providers pay relatively low fees for NFLN. That will change.
                            I'm curious about this because the NFL is skating awfully close to monopoly laws and the government has been letting them get away with it, wagging their fingers all the while. I wonder what happens if they take the only game in town and shut down non-paid access to it.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              From some form of "pay per view". Ten years ago, the NFL started building toward a model in which we will all have to pay to watch or listen, in some way or another. There was an interview with a league marketing guy a couple years ago. I have wondered if he was fired for doing it, or if it was intentional as an ice-breaker of sorts. Basically, he said it is not fair that one fan pays $100 to watch at the stadium, and another sits at home and watches for free. As he asked, shouldn't it be worth a couple dollars for any fan to watch or listen? He even mentioned pay per listen radio.

                              They are heading that way. I suspect more and more games will go to the NFL Network, and subscription radio will start getting games. As the momentum builds, the cost to have it will increase. Currently, cable providers pay relatively low fees for NFLN. That will change.
                              It is already happening. You have to subscribe to cable (or some other similar option) to get ESPN and NFL Network.
                              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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