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    Five years ago we said Thompson seemed to have a plan to find real answers to problems rather than temporary fixes

    Four years ago we said you can see the young talent showing signs and over the long term if we kept finding talent, it would start to steam roll as we resign the key players for less than UFA prices and then have even more money to tip the scales of greatness.

    Three years ago we almost made the SB. We said TT was not showing ego with getting rid of Favre, but rather showing that he liked Aaron Rodgers and wanted him as our QB instead. We said we were surprised to see it peak this soon because we had more money to spend than just about any team in the league and our young talent was still too young really.

    two years ago we started resigning key players. We said this is the window we were waiting for. 6-10 was a slump but it got us Raji and Clay and we still have boat loads of cash to get better.

    One year ago we said we are one of the most talented teams in the entire NFL, we're still one of the youngest and still have a lot of room to keep spending. Kurt Warner said on NFLN that our team should have beat theirs 9 out of 10 times. They played a magical game, but he loved the Packer team (and this was earlier in the playhoffs before we won the SB). Warner knew what we had and so did some of McGinn's scouts.

    This year we said our window was wide open again. IMO and i think several others, our best teams are still ahead of us. We win the SB. It's everything we expected and maybe more.



    Through all of it the pessimists said we were drinking the kool aid. Cutler was as good as Rodgers. Our OL was too weak. Ted was too cheap and conservative to win. Ted could never win without Favre. Favre made this team what it was and on an on and on. . . . . .

    Look how it panned out. Exactly like we though. And McGinn jsut came out with the Dynasty thing, but we've been talking here about this being the direction. If Ted's plan worked like we hoped, it wasn't going to be a one year wonder. It was going to be a several year window. I'm shocked we won it this year. I think our window is even wider open for the next three years.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    I love my kool aid!
    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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    • #3
      <<<<<< Not shocked Packers won it this year.

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      • #4
        It takes a lot of things breaking your way in any given year to win a championship, so there's no guarantee that we'll be back any time soon (though you can't possibly say that the Packers got all the breaks this year). But they'll never take this away from us, and we're set up to have as good a chance as anybody for the foreseeable future.

        I've always been an adherent to the "just get in the playoffs, and once you're there anything can happen" school of thought. Winning that big silver football as the #6 seed is going to make it so I never waver from this conviction.
        Last edited by Lurker64; 02-09-2011, 09:59 PM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
          It takes a lot of things breaking your way in any given year, so there's no guarantee that we'll be back any time soon (though you can't possibly say that the Packers got all the breaks this year). But they'll never take this away from us, and we're set up to have as good a chance as anybody for the foreseeable future.

          I've always been an adherent to the "just get in the playoffs, and once you're there anything can happen" school of thought. Winning that big silver football as the #6 seed is going to make it so I never waver from this conviction.
          Lurker, you hit it on the head but you understate the significance that virtually NOTHING went our way during the regular season.

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          • #6
            Good post JH.

            While basically nothing went right this year, TT's plan was still followed and executed brilliantly. What a ride.
            Go PACK

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            • #7
              The only real break the Packers got was when the Jets released Howard Green. With Pickett hobbled at the time, the Packers were desperate for a big guy to spell B.J. Raji a bit. Green's sudden availability reminded me of 1996 when Andre Rison suddenly became available at a time when the Packers were hobbled at wide receiver.

              That said, TT was proven right. He won it all in his 6th year at the helm, 5th year with the coach of his choosing. Ron Wolf and Mike Holmgren won it in their 5th year. The difference is that whereas Wolf and Holmgren didn't always see eye to eye, Thompson and McCarthy seem in lockstep in terms of how they want to put this team together. They have a better chance to win multiple Super Bowls because it is highly unlikely the coach will leave 2 years after winning the Super Bowl.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                Cutler was as good as Rodgers.

                Clefty's focus must not be working - too many Travatan drops for the ole' glaucoma perhaps. Who said this? Seriously, other than a deluded Bears fan, did anyone actually believe this?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                  Clefty's focus must not be working - too many Travatan drops for the ole' glaucoma perhaps. Who said this? Seriously, other than a deluded Bears fan, did anyone actually believe this?
                  Wasn't that Partial?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                    Clefty's focus must not be working - too many Travatan drops for the ole' glaucoma perhaps. Who said this? Seriously, other than a deluded Bears fan, did anyone actually believe this?
                    I remember debating this. I think this was after Aaron's first year starting when Cutler went to Chicago.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
                      (though you can't possibly say that the Packers got all the breaks this year).
                      I think the Packers got all the breaks -
                      Broken TE,
                      Broken OT,
                      Broken RB,
                      Broken DE's
                      Broken LB's
                      Broken SS's


                      Hell of a job by TT / MM to succeed in the face of this. As fans we all complain from time to time when the leadership makes head scratching moves, but they got the job done.
                      2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah the Packers catch all the breaks but they catch them in the offseason. We drafted Raji and Clay in the same draft and then they turned into elite players in only their second year. Tramon Williams just had the best year from a cornerback that I have ever seen in Green Bay and that includes Chuck's DPOY season. Sam Shields materialized into a defensive staple. That's too good to be all Thompson. That's luck.

                        On the field things were about as unlucky as they were in 2008. A few more bad breaks and we miss the playoffs but a few good ones? Or just no bad ones? The Packers are 15-1. With all the parody in the NFL last season I kept thinking that if we had only stayed healthy we could easily be the unquestioned powerhouse in the NFL. This year we will be.
                        70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                          That's too good to be all Thompson. That's luck.
                          100% Disagree. This is good drafting and signing of people with talent off the scrap heap...if he only did it once that is luck, twice is a coincidence, three times is a trend...10 times is a Thompson!
                          Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                            100% Disagree. This is good drafting and signing of people with talent off the scrap heap...if he only did it once that is luck, twice is a coincidence, three times is a trend...10 times is a Thompson!
                            I like it. Three Times A Lady. Ten Times A Thompson.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #15
                              <<<<<<<<<<<<< Was (still am) an optimist.


                              <<<<<<<<<<<<< Still shocked Packers won Super Bowl
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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